大选之夜宣布的历史性的第一件事是民主党候选人韦斯·摩尔赢得了马里兰州的州长席位。
摩尔,前罗兹学者,陆军上尉和投资银行家,将成为该州第一位黑人州长。
ABC新闻的Linsey Davis采访了Moore,讲述了他对胜利的感受,他对马里兰州的计划以及他对美国民主状况的看法
普莱姆:当选州长摩尔,这听起来很有味道,不是吗?
摩尔:听起来很棒。听起来很棒。很高兴见到你,林西。谢谢你。
你感觉怎么样?
摩尔:我们感觉很棒,但也感到非常谦卑。你知道,我认为这个州的人民,他们不只是说话,而是大声说话。如果你看看胜利是如何发生的,你知道,在这个州的城市、农村和郊区,在这个州的民主党、独立派和共和党的地区。
我的意思是,这是马里兰州人民给予的一个响亮的命令。有一个命令,我们要快速行动,我们要勇敢,但我们要建立一个不会让任何人掉队的国家。所以我很谦卑,也很兴奋。
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当然,几周前我们在“奔向11月”系列节目中聊过,当时你把我踢到了路边。你抛下了我,与口号相反。但我当时问你,当选为你所在州的第一位黑人州长,仅仅是这个国家第三位当选的黑人州长,是否有一定的分量。这就是你的现实。你有机会处理它吗?我肯定你都没怎么睡觉。
摩尔:是的。我们没怎么睡觉。但这非常令人羞愧。你知道,昨晚我有机会,在我的获奖感言中,我向我的祖母致敬,她上周去世了,享年95岁,她是我家真正的女家长。
以及她有机会做的最后一件事是如何投票让她的孙子成为她所热爱的州的州长。当我和我11岁和9岁的孩子一起站在舞台上时,我有机会做到这一点。
因此,考虑到这种动态和这个州的历史,以及这对马里兰州的第一家庭来说意味着什么,我肯定不会忘记。
PRIME:当然,你是一名前陆军上尉,正如你提到的,你在竞选中提出了“不让一个人掉队”的军事口号我现在很好奇,当你看着经济和通货膨胀,这是许多选民的首要问题,你是如何做到这一点的?考虑到对潜在衰退的所有担忧,当谈到经济安全时,你如何在像马里兰州这样的州不让任何人掉队?
摩尔:我认为我们能做的最重要的事情之一是确保每个人都有机会参与。你知道,因为如果你看看马里兰州,你知道,我们为每个申请失业的人提供两个工作。人们会说,这有什么意义呢?这是有道理的,因为我们在马里兰州有一个充满活力的经济。
我们只是没有训练人们参与其中。因此,这意味着要有一个教育体系,教育我们的年轻人不仅要成为雇员,还要成为雇主。这意味着关注学徒计划和贸易计划,让人们从事目前正在招聘的职业。
这意味着能够确保人们的工作得到公平的工资,并结束这种想法,即我们应该有工作的人,在某些情况下有多份工作,但仍然生活在贫困线或贫困线以下。
因此,如果我们能够创造一个参与性经济,一个所有权经济,在那里我们为工作、工资和财富创造途径,这是我们能够做的最重要的事情,不仅帮助马里兰州的家庭做好准备,而且帮助他们度过可能会有一些困难的经济逆风到来的事实。
PRIME:让我们来谈谈犯罪,这当然是巴尔的摩市的一个主要问题。识别问题很容易,但是你有具体的解决方案来解决犯罪率上升的问题吗?
摩尔:是的。解决方案是不会有单一的解决方案。但我们需要确保国家是一个全面的合作伙伴,能够解决我们社会中的公共安全和暴力问题。成为一个完全的合作伙伴意味着像修正假释和缓刑制度这样的事情,继续允许暴力罪犯在我们的街道上和我们的社区中存在。
我们必须整顿假释和缓刑部,确保它有充足的人员和资金,这样我们就可以把这些暴力罪犯赶出我们的街道。这意味着与我们的联邦伙伴合作,确保我们将这些非法枪支赶出我们的社区。
这意味着能够实际提供资源和支持,例如我们的凶杀案侦探和那些每天都在努力破案但发现自己人手不足的人。
这意味着能够利用国家资源来解决我们在社会中继续看到的犯罪的根源。因为尽管执法部门将在这次对话中发挥非常重要的作用,但我们不会逮捕或军事化我们的出路。我们必须找出解决犯罪、公共安全、公共安全问题以及我们在社会中看到的暴力的根本原因的方法,并且能够以一种整体的方式来解决它。
最后,一个关于我们民主的整体状况的问题。我们已经听过很多次了,你知道,昨晚的投票上有民主。你击败了一个被现任共和党州长称为QAnon疯子的选举否认者。但尽管否认2020年的结果,许多选举否认者仍在走向新的权力职位或保住他们在国会的席位。你认为这是一个真正的持续威胁,还是可能只是特朗普当选总统后我们当前政治中的一个暂时现象?
摩尔:不。我认为MAGA运动是一个真正的持续威胁。我们需要对此进行反击。一个政党以某种方式垄断爱国主义或拥有爱国主义的想法是我们必须抵制的。这是我们在竞选中大力推行的。我不会停止。
我不会允许一个对爱国主义的定义是试图推翻民主的团体,或者一个对爱国主义的定义是冲击国会大厦却声称爱国的团体。我不会允许的,因为我见过爱国主义。我和我自己的家人一起看过。
当我还是第82空降师的一员时,我在阿富汗和我一起服役的人一起看过,当时我带领士兵作战,伞兵作战。
爱国主义是我们必须争取和捍卫的东西。我认为这将变得至关重要,因为为了让我们完成我们需要完成的任何事情,民主的基本结构必须得到保护、保障和珍惜。
总理:我们想给你送上一份祝贺,当选州长韦斯·摩尔。非常感谢你准时来参加节目。非常感谢你的时间。
摩尔:一如既往地见到你真好。谢谢你。
Wes Moore on being elected Maryland's first Black governor: 'It is remarkably humbling'
One of the historic firsts announced on election night was Democratic candidate Wes Moore's victory in securing the governor's seat in Maryland.
Moore, a former Rhodes scholar, Army captain and investment banker, will be the state's first Black governor.
ABC News' Linsey Davis spoke with Moore about how he is feeling about his victory, his plans for the state of Maryland and his views on the state of democracy in the U.S.
PRIME: Governor-elect Moore, that has a certain ring to it, doesn't it?
MOORE: It sounds great. It sounds great. And it's wonderful to see you, Linsey. Thank you.
PRIME: How are you feeling?
MOORE: We're feeling wonderful, but also just feeling very humbled. You know, I think the people of this state, they didn't just speak, but they spoke loudly. If you look at how the victory happened, it was, you know, in urban and rural and suburban areas of the state, in Democrat and Independent and Republican areas of the state.
I mean, this was a resounding mandate that the people of Maryland gave. And there was a mandate that we were going to move fast, we were going to be bold, but we were going to build a state that's not leaving anyone behind. And so I'm humbled and I'm very excited.
PRIME: And, of course, we spoke a few weeks ago for our "Race to November" series, where you just kicked me to the curb. You left me behind, contrary to the slogan. But I asked you then if there was a certain weight to being elected the first Black governor of your state, only the third elected Black governor in the country. Now that that's actually your reality. Have you had a chance to process it? I'm sure you haven't even had much sleep.
MOORE: Yeah. We have not had much sleep. But it is remarkably humbling. You know, last night I had a chance to, in my acceptance address, I honored my grandmother who actually passed away last week at the age of 95, who was really the matriarch of my family.
And how one of the last things that she got a chance to do was vote for her grandson to be the governor of a state that she loved. And I got a chance to do that while also standing on stage with my 11 and my 9- year-old kids.
And so thinking about that dynamic and both the history of the state and what that does mean for the first family to look like ours in the state of Maryland, it's definitely not lost on me.
PRIME: And, of course, you're a former Army captain, as you mentioned, you ran on the military slogan of 'Leave No One Behind.' I'm curious now, as you look at the economy and inflation, which was the top issue for so many voters, how do you go about doing that? How do you leave no one behind in a state like Maryland when it comes to economic security, given all the concerns about a potential recession?
MOORE: I think one of the most important things we can do is make sure that everyone has a chance to participate. You know, because if you look at the state of Maryland, you know, we have two available jobs for every single person filing for unemployment. And people say, well, how does that make sense? It makes sense because we actually have a dynamic economy in the state of Maryland.
We're just not training people to participate in it. And so it means having an education system that's teaching our young people how not just to be employees but to be employers. It means focusing on apprenticeship programs and trade programs and getting people in occupations that are currently hiring.
It means being able to make sure that people are being paid a fair wage for the work that they are doing and ending this idea that we should have people who are working jobs, in some cases multiple jobs, and still living at or below the poverty line.
So if we can create a participatory economy, an ownership economy where we're creating pathways for work, wages and wealth, it's the most important thing that we can do to help Maryland families not just prepare for, but also drive through the fact that there can be some difficult economic headwinds coming.
PRIME: Let's talk about crime, which is, of course, a major issue in the city of Baltimore. It's easy to identify the problem, but do you have a specific solution in order to tackle the issue of rising crime?
MOORE: Yes. And the solution is that there's not going to be a single solution. But we need to make sure that the state is a full partner to be able to address the issue of public safety and violence in our society. And being a full partner means things like fixing a parole and probation system that continues to allow violent offenders in our streets and in our neighborhoods.
We have to fix the Department of Parole and Probation and make sure that it's fully staffed and funded so we can get these violent offenders off of our streets. It means working with our federal partners to make sure we're getting these illegal guns out of our neighborhoods.
It means being able to actually provide resources and support to things like our homicide detectives and people who every single day are trying to solve crimes but find themselves understaffed and undermanned.
And it means being able to utilize state resources to be able to address the root causes of crime that we continue to see in our society. Because while there is a very important role that law enforcement is going to play in this conversation, we are not going to arrest or militarize our way out of this. We have got to figure out ways of dealing with the root causes of crime and public safety and public safety issues and violence that we see in our society and to be able to address it in a holistic way.
PRIME: And lastly, a question about just the overall state of our democracy. We've heard so many times, you know, democracy was on the ballot last night. You defeated an election denier who the incumbent Republican governor had called a QAnon whack job. But many election deniers are still heading to new positions of power or holding on to their seats in Congress despite denying the 2020 results. Do you see that as a real ongoing threat, or could this possibly be just a temporary blip in our politics of the moment in the wake of the Trump presidency?
MOORE: No. I think that this MAGA movement is very much a real ongoing threat. And we need to push back against this. The idea that somehow a political party corners patriotism or owns patriotism is something that we have to push back against. And it was something that we did forcefully in our campaign. And I won't stop.
I will not allow for a group whose definition of patriotism is trying to take down democracy or a group who claims patriotism when their definition of it is storming the Capitol. I will not allow that because I've seen patriotism. I've seen it with my own family.
I've seen it with the people that I served with in Afghanistan when I was a member of the 82nd Airborne Division, when I led soldiers in combat, paratroopers in combat.
That patriotism is something that we must fight for and we must defend. And that is something that I think is going to become crucial, because in order for us to accomplish anything else that we need to accomplish, the basic fabric of democracy has got to be protected and secured and cherished.
PRIME: We want to send a big congratulations to you, Governor-elect Wes Moore. Really appreciate you coming on the time on the show. Thank you so much for your time.
MOORE: It's great to see you as always. Thank you.