众议院情报委员会主席迈克·特纳周日表示，参众两院和国会两党将寻求“迫使”司法部让立法者审查机密文件乔·拜登和唐纳德·特朗普在离任时留任.
特纳在美国广播公司的“本周”节目中批评了DOJ的决定不让国会看到这些文件因为特别顾问正在对拜登和特朗普的行为进行调查。
“他们没有能力阻止我们，”俄亥俄州共和党人特纳告诉联合主播玛莎·拉达茨，称国会在此事上的传票权力是“绝对的”
“我们被告知，我们将有这些文件可供我们审查。...我认为这只会让每个人都关心他们在隐瞒什么，为什么他们试图不让国会知道?”他说。
特纳预测“两党、两院的支持将迫使司法部长[梅里克]加兰向国会提供这些文件这样我们就可以看看发生了什么，这些文件里有什么，国会需要做些什么来保护美国的秘密。"
在特朗普发表上述言论的几天前，前副总统迈克·彭斯的律师表示，他们发现特朗普在离任后保留了一些机密材料——就像拜登和特朗普一样(就拜登而言，在他担任参议员和副总统之后)。
消息人士此前告诉ABC新闻，DOJ国家安全部门和联邦调查局正在审查彭斯的文件。司法部长还任命了特别律师调查从拜登和特朗普那里收回的文件的处理情况。
彭斯在11月告诉ABC新闻的大卫·穆尔，他没有带任何机密文件回家星期五说他“不知道”这些材料在他印第安纳州的家中，但他说他承担“全部责任”，称这是一个错误。
拜登的一名律师也说了同样的话，在一些材料被发现“无意中放错了地方”后，他争辩道。
特朗普否认有不当行为。
在“本周”节目中，特纳说这三起案件指向了更广泛的问题。
“这真的令人震惊，因为这表明副总统办公室和总统办公室的行政处理方面确实存在系统性问题，”他说。
“我无法想象有哪种情况下，会有人认为他们需要把这些(机密材料)放在家里，”他说，随后补充道:“这些问题中的每一个问题的监管链都将非常重要。这当然应该是司法部调查的一部分。”
“这些文件是如何到达目的地的，我们最终在哪里找到了它们，以及在此期间它们发生了什么?”特纳问道。
这位共和党议员特别提到了拜登的行为，指出拜登家中的一些文件可以追溯到他至少14年前担任参议员的时候。在记者追问下，特纳拒绝具体回答彭斯的案子，只是指出彭斯说他不知道这些材料。
“上周，你称拜登总统是一个连环文件收藏者，并说他只会把机密文件放在自己的住处，让别人看。你现在对迈克·彭斯也有同样的担忧吗?”拉达茨问道。
“在所有这些情况下，担心的是这些信息会被提供给其他人，并被其他人访问。这就是为什么它是机密，”特纳说。“这就是为什么这件事的处理方式令人严重关切。”
“这些机密文件包含我们不想让任何人看到的信息，我们不想让任何人知道的信息，因为它们将我们的国家置于危险之中，”他继续说道。
特纳说，即便如此，他更担心的是有太多的机密文件。
“我认为事情被过度分类了。不幸的是，国会没有解密的能力。我认为有些事情需要公开讨论，”他说。
他说，他对最近的“政策转变”感到振奋，政府开始披露一些信息关于俄罗斯入侵乌克兰以及美国的反应。
他说:“我认为，美国的盟友公开讨论我们掌握的信息非常重要。”。
Congress could 'force' DOJ to show them Biden and Trump classified documents, Rep. Turner says
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner on Sunday indicated both chambers and both parties in Congress will seek to "force" the Department of Justice to let lawmakers review the classified documents that Joe Biden and Donald Trump retained while out of office.
In an appearance on ABC's "This Week," Turner criticized DOJ's decision not to let Congress see the documents because of the ongoing special counsel investigations of Biden and Trump's conduct.
"They have no ability to prevent us," Turner, R-Ohio, told co-anchor Martha Raddatz, calling Congress' subpoena power on the matter "absolute."
"We were told that we were going to have these documents available to us to review. ... I think it only makes everybody concerned about what are they hiding and why are they trying to keep it from Congress?" he said.
Turner predicted "bipartisan, bicameral support to force Attorney General [Merrick] Garland to make these documents available to Congress so that we can take a look at what happened, what's in these documents and what does Congress need to do to protect America's secrets."
His comments come days after former Vice President Mike Pence's lawyers said they found he retained some classified materials after leaving office -- just as Biden and Trump did (in Biden's case, after he was a senator and vice president).
The Pence documents were undergoing review by the DOJ's National Security Division and the FBI, sources previously told ABC News. The attorney general has also appointed special counsels to investigate the handling of documents recovered from Biden and Trump.
Pence -- who told ABC News' David Muir in November that he didn't bring any classified documents home with him -- said Friday that he was "not aware" the materials were at his house in Indiana but said he took "full responsibility," calling it a mistake.
An attorney for Biden has said much the same, contending after some of the materials were found that they were "inadvertently misplaced."
Trump has denied wrongdoing.
On "This Week," Turner said the three cases pointed to broader issues.
"It's just really astounding because it shows there's really a systemic problem here on the administration handling side, of both the vice president's office and the president's office," he said.
"I can't imagine a circumstance where anyone would believe they need to have them [classified materials] in their home," he said, later adding: "The chain of custody in each of these issues is going to be important. It certainly should be part of the Department of Justice's investigation."
"How did these documents get where they were going and where we ultimately found them, but also what happened to them in the interim?" Turner asked.
The Republican congressman singled out Biden's conduct, noting that some of the documents in Biden's home dated back to his time as a senator at least 14 years ago. Turner declined to specifically address the Pence case when pressed, other than noting Pence said he'd been unaware of the materials.
"Last week, you called President Biden a serial document hoarder and said he would only have classified documents at his residence to show them to somebody. Do you have the same concerns now about Mike Pence?" Raddatz asked.
"Well, in all these instances, the concern is that this information would be given to someone else, and would be accessed by someone else. That's why it's classified," Turner said. "That's why it's a grave concern as to the manner in which this is handled."
"These classified documents contain information that we don't want anyone else to see, that we don't want anyone else to know, because they put at risk our country," he continued.
Even so, Turner said, he had a broader concern that there were too many classified documents.
"I think things are overclassified. Unfortunately, Congress doesn't have the ability to declassify. There are things that I think need to be out in the public discourse," he said.
He said he was heartened by a recent "shift in policy" in which the government began disclosing some information regarding Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the U.S. response.
"I think it's incredibly important for allies of the United States to openly discuss the information that we have," he said.
