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马乔里·泰勒·格林拒绝放弃“国家离婚”的提议

2023-02-23 11:50 -ABC  -  442149

面对一些严厉的反弹,佐治亚州共和党众议员马乔里·泰勒·格林(Marjorie Taylor Greene)在她的“全国离婚”提案上翻了三番——根据政治意识形态将全国分为“红色”共和党州和“蓝色”民主党州。

内战结束后,最高法院裁定一个州脱离联邦是违宪的,这将使她的计划无法实施。

但格林自2021年以来一直在宣扬这一想法,当时她想阻止被“洗脑”的加州人搬到佛罗里达州等州,现在她已经成为众议院议长凯文·麦卡锡的亲密盟友和众议院国土安全委员会的成员,因此这一概念获得了新的关注。

“我们需要一场全民离婚。我们需要把红州和蓝州分开,缩小联邦政府,”格林说书写在总统日的另一条推特上。

“每个和我交谈的人都这么说。从强加给我们的恶心的文化问题到民主党的卖国政策,我们已经完成了,”

她被邀请解释她声称如何在福克斯新闻频道的“Hannity”项目以及其他保守的渠道上工作。

“我最不希望看到的美国内战,”她告诉肖恩·哈尼蒂。“没有人希望这样——至少我认识的每个人都不会希望这样——但它正朝着那个方向发展,我们必须对此采取行动。”

在保守派评论员查理·柯克(Charlie Kirk)周二的节目中,格林阐述了她的提议的另一部分:允许红色州阻止来自蓝色州的民主党人投票。

“红州可以选择如何让人们在自己的州投票,”格林说。“我认为一些红色州可以提出的建议是:嗯,好吧,如果民主党选民选择逃离这些蓝色州,他们无法忍受那里的生活条件,他们不想让他们的孩子学到这些可怕的东西,他们真的会改变他们对他们支持的政策类型的想法,嗯,一旦他们搬到红色州,你猜怎么着,也许你在五年内都不会投票。”

她的提议立即被现任和前任共和党议员驳回,包括犹他州共和党参议员米特罗姆尼告诉了盐湖论坛报周二,“我认为亚伯拉罕·林肯处理了那种疯狂……”我们不会分裂这个国家。团结我们才能站立,分裂我们才能倒下。"

PHOTO: Sen. Mitt Romney speaks with reporters during a series of the votes at the U.S. Capitol, Feb 13, 2023, in Washington.

2023年2月13日,参议员米特罗姆尼在美国国会大厦的一系列投票中与记者交谈。

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前众议员利兹·切尼(R-Wyo)周一痛斥格林,强调格林的提议违宪。

切尼说:“我们的国家受宪法管辖。”发微博。“你发过誓要支持和捍卫宪法。脱离联邦是违反宪法的。任何国会议员都不应该主张脱离联邦,马乔里。”

另一位前国会共和党成员、温和派亚当·金辛格(Adam Kinzinger)像切尼一样,是1月6日委员会的成员,一个多月前刚刚离开国会,他问自己的政党:

每个共和党当选官员都需要被问及,并且必须给出一个答案:你支持“国家离婚”也就是内战吗?一个词的答案,没有误导,而不是“这是媒体总是这样做。”

"你同意该党领袖MTG的观点吗?"

麦卡锡尚未公开评论格林的提议。

但是这位佐治亚州的共和党人仍然坚定不移,回击了一些对她最直言不讳的批评。

“人们同意我,而不是犹他州的RINO州长,”MTG在推特上发布了一条新闻,概述了犹他州共和党州长斯潘塞·考克斯的言论,称格林的言论是“邪恶的”

她还辩称,她的“国家离婚”想法并不等同于“内战”。

“人们说国家离婚是一个坏主意,因为左派永远不会停止试图控制我们,实际上是在为国家离婚辩护,”她在一份声明中说周三发微博。

“我们不想要内战。我们不会投降。我们厌倦了抱怨没有改变,我们想保护我们的生活方式,”她说。

近年来,在州一级进行了几次继承努力,包括重组州界线以容纳异常县。

爱达荷州众议院于2022年通过了一项法案,允许俄勒冈州东部的保守地区加入爱达荷州。后来,马里兰州的一些共和党议员提议该州三个县中的三个脱离出去,加入西弗吉尼亚州。

在这两种情况下,支持者声称,他们所说的想要脱离的农村保守县感觉与他们所在州的自由派领导脱节。

但是国家领导人过去也曾提出过继承的想法。

在加利福尼亚州,特朗普退出巴黎气候协议后,民主党州长杰里·布朗讨论了进一步推进该州自己的外交政策举措。在财政保守的“茶党”运动时期,国家级人物也提出了类似的想法。

“我们有一个伟大的联盟。德克萨斯州共和党州长里克·佩里(Rick Perry)在2009年表示,绝对没有理由解散它,“但如果华盛顿继续对美国人民嗤之以鼻,你知道,谁知道会有什么后果?”

Marjorie Taylor Greene refuses to back down from 'national divorce' proposal

In the face of some harsh blowback, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the firebrand Georgia Republican, has tripled down on her proposal for a "national divorce"-- splitting the country according to political ideology into "red" Republican states and "blue" Democratic states.

After the Civil War, the Supreme Court ruled it is unconstitutional for a state to secede, which would make it impossible for her plan to be implemented.

But Greene, who has been touting the idea since 2021 when she wanted to halt "brainwashed" Californians from moving to states like Florida, is gaining new attention for the concept, now that she has become a close ally of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and a member of the House Homeland Security Committee.

"We need a national divorce. We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government," Greenewrotein a separate tweet on Presidents Day.

"Everyone I talk to says this. From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat's traitorous America Last policies, we are done."

She's been invited to explain how she claims it would work on Fox News' "Hannity" program as well as on other conservative outlets.

"The last thing I ever want to see in America is a civil war," she told Sean Hannity. "No one wants that -- at least everyone I know would never want that -- but it's going that direction, and we have to do something about it."

On conservative commentator Charlie Kirk's show on Tuesday, Greene laid out another part of her proposal: allowing red states to block Democrats from voting if they came from a blue state.

"Red states can choose in how they allow people to vote in their states," Greene said. "What I think would be something that some red states could propose is: well, okay, if Democrat voters choose to flee these blue states where they cannot tolerate the living conditions, they don't want their children taught these horrible things, and they really change their mind on the types of policies that they support, well once they move to a red state, guess what, maybe you don't get to vote for five years."

Her proposition was promptly dismissed by current and former GOP lawmakers, including Utah GOP Sen. Mitt Romney, whotold the Salt Lake Tribuneon Tuesday, "I think Abraham Lincoln dealt with that kind of insanity …"We're not going to divide the country. It's united we stand and divided we fall."

Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., lambasted Greene on Monday, highlighting the unconstitutionality of Greene's proposal.

"Our country is governed by the Constitution," Cheneytweeted. "You swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Secession is unconstitutional. No member of Congress should advocate secession, Marjorie."

Another former Republican member of Congress, moderate Adam Kinzinger, who, like Cheney, was a member of the Jan. 6 committee and left Congress just over a month ago, asked his party:

"Every Republican elected official needs to be asked and must give an answer: do you support a "national divorce" aka a civil war? One word answer, no misdirect, not 'this is what the media always does.'

"Do you agree with the leader of the party, MTG?"

McCarthy has not commented publicly on Greene's proposal.

But the Georgia Republican has remained steadfast, lashing back at some of her most vocal critics.

"People agree with me and not the RINO governor of Utah," MTG tweeted alongside a news story outlining remarks from Utah's GOP Gov. Spencer Cox calling Greene's rhetoric "evil."

She also argued her "national divorce" idea was not equivalent to a "civil war."

"People saying national divorce is a bad idea because the left will never stop trying to control us literally make the case for national divorce," she said in atweet on Wednesday.

"We don't want a civil war. We're not surrendering. We're tired of complaining with no change and want to protect our way of life," she said.

In recent years, there have been several succession efforts at the state level, including reorganizing state lines to accommodate outlier counties.

The Idaho House passed a bill in 2022 that would allow a conservative portion of eastern Oregon to join Idaho. Later, some Republican lawmakers in Maryland proposed three of the state's three counties break off and join West Virginia.

In both those cases, proponents claimed the rural, conservative counties they said desired to secede felt disconnected to their states' liberal leadership.

But the idea of succession has also been floated around by national leaders in the past.

In California, after Trump withdrew from the Paris climate agreement, Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown discussed furthering the state's own foreign policy initiatives. During the days of the fiscally conservative "tea party" movement, similar ideas were floated by national figures.

"We've got a great union. There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it," Texas GOP Gov. Rick Perry said in 2009, before adding, "But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what may come out of that?"

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