前《人物》杂志作家,在E. Jean Carroll诽谤和殴打前总统案中作证唐纳德·特朗普告诉陪审团,特朗普在2005年访问他的Mar-a-Lago庄园时将她推到墙上,并开始吻她。
卡罗尔,谁提起诉讼11月,声称特朗普在2022年诽谤了她真实社会邮报称她的指控是“骗局和谎言”,并说“这个女人不是我喜欢的类型!”当他否认她声称特朗普在20世纪90年代在波道夫古德曼更衣室强奸了她。
这位前Elle杂志专栏作家根据最近通过的纽约法律增加了一项殴打罪,该法律允许性虐待的成年幸存者起诉他们所谓的攻击者,而不管诉讼时效。特朗普否认了所有关于他强奸卡罗尔或诽谤她的指控。
前《人物》杂志作家Natasha Stoynoff告诉陪审团,2005年底她在Mar-a-Lago写一篇关于唐纳德和梅兰妮·特朗普结婚一周年的文章,当时Trump要求带她去看庄园里的一个房间。
“我跟着他,我们从后门进去,穿过大厅,然后向右拐进一个房间,”斯托伊诺夫说。“我环顾四周,我在想,‘哇,真漂亮的房间’,想知道他想给我看什么,然后我听到门在我身后关上了。”
斯托伊诺夫说,她曾多次采访特朗普,这是她为人们撰写的“特朗普节拍”任务的一部分。她作证说,特朗普请她进入房间,当时梅拉尼娅正在外面换衣服,准备接受采访。
“当我转身的时候,他把手放在我的肩膀上,把我推到墙上,开始吻我,”斯托伊诺夫作证说。她说她试图推开他。
E.2023年5月2日,美国前总统唐纳德·特朗普强奸原告让·卡罗尔(Jean Carroll)在纽约市民事案件后退出曼哈顿联邦法院。
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“他再次向我走来,我试图再次推他,”斯托伊诺夫说。"他在吻我,他靠着我,扶着我的肩膀。"
她作证说她什么也没说。
“我不能。我试过了。我只是慌张和震惊。我什么也没说,”斯托诺夫告诉陪审团。
“你让他停下来了吗?”卡罗尔的律师迈克尔·费拉拉问道。“我不能,”斯托伊诺夫回答。她说,当一名男管家走进房间时,这场邂逅就结束了。
斯托伊诺夫称自己“对所发生的事情感到羞愧和羞辱”,并作证说她没有向《人物》杂志的老板提及此事,因为她不想给杂志带来麻烦。
她说,她第一次决定讲述自己的故事是在她看到2016年总统竞选期间浮出水面的臭名昭著的“进入好莱坞”录像带之后,川普无意中听到川普向当时的主持人比利·布什吹嘘抓女人和亲吻女人未经同意。
“你知道,我会不由自主地被美丽所吸引——我会开始亲吻她们。它就像一块磁铁。只是亲吻。我甚至不等待,”特朗普在为陪审团播放的磁带上说。“当你是明星时,他们会让你这么做...你可以做任何事情。”
“随你便,”录音带中的另一个声音说道。
“抓住他们的p -,”特朗普说。“你可以做任何事情。”
斯托伊诺夫在2016年提出指控后,特朗普拒绝了她的要求说“看着她。你告诉我你的想法。我不这么认为,”卡罗尔的律师回应说,他断言卡罗尔“不是我喜欢的类型。”
在反诘问中,特朗普的律师乔·塔科皮纳(Joe Tacopina)问斯托伊诺夫,她是否有针对特朗普的法律主张。她说没有。
斯托伊诺夫是法院裁定允许就特朗普之前涉嫌的袭击作证的两名女性之一。周二,杰西卡·利兹告诉陪审员,特朗普在一次飞行中摸了她卡罗尔的律师说,这显示了特朗普的行为模式。
利兹,她第一次提出指控《纽约时报》就在2016年总统大选之前,她作证说,她坐在头等舱特朗普的旁边,“突然特朗普决定吻我,摸我。”
利兹作证说:“当他开始把手放在我的裙子上时,给了我一股力量。”利兹说,她挣脱了自己,“冲回了我在长途汽车后座的座位。”
特朗普否认了这些指控。
周三早些时候,塔科皮纳告诉法官刘易斯·卡普兰,特朗普不会在此案中进行辩护。
塔科皮纳告诉法官,他已经决定不传唤一名专家证人,该专家证人预计将为被告作证。“我们不会前进,”塔科皮纳说。
法官告诉陪审团,预计将在“下周初”审理此案
卡罗尔的姐姐坎德·卡罗尔(Cande Carroll)周三下午作证说,当卡罗尔向她发送一封电子邮件时,她发现了她姐姐在2019年被指控强奸的事情,邮件中包含了卡罗尔2019年的一本书的节选链接,该书包含强奸指控。
她说,她以这种方式发现这件事并不令人惊讶,因为她和姐姐“只是不谈论那些事情。”
在反诘问中,年轻的卡罗尔作证说,在20世纪90年代,当所谓的强奸发生时,她和卡罗尔有密切的关系。
“你们几乎每天都说话?”辩护律师佩里·勃兰特问道。“大多数时候,”卡罗尔回答说,然后勃兰特让她确认,她第一次听说特朗普涉嫌性侵是在2019年。
周三早些时候,一名心理学家作证说,卡罗尔在据称的袭击发生后继续在波道夫·古德曼购物,因为“她不觉得波道夫·古德曼强奸了她。”
“她没有责怪商店。她责怪自己,”莱斯利·勒博维茨医生说,他为此案对卡罗尔进行了评估。
辩方认为,卡罗尔继续在伯格多夫商店购物,保存她在被指控的袭击当晚穿的裙子,以及观看特朗普的电视真人秀节目“学徒”,这些行为与特朗普的行为格格不入深度创伤卡罗尔说她很痛苦。
Lebowitz反驳了辩方的推论,即卡罗尔对特朗普的强奸指控不可能是真的,因为她没有表现得像真的发生了一样。
“我认为卡罗尔女士在任何地方都能看到她受到所发生的事情的负面影响的证据,她会与之抗争。所以,考虑到她对那家店的热爱,不回Bergdorf是显而易见的,”Lebowitz说。
勒博维茨说,这条裙子也是如此。
“我想她喜欢衣服,那是她买过的最贵的衣服,”Lebowitz说。"不可能不意识到她受到了如此负面的影响。"
至于看《学徒》,Lebowitz说在Carroll的职业和社交圈子里有对这个节目的兴奋。不看会迫使她说出原因。
在反诘问中,辩护律师Chad Seigel问Lebowitz,她的诊断是否得出卡罗尔被强奸的结论。
"你不是在本案中对卡罗尔女士是否被强奸发表意见?"西格尔问。
“我不是,”勒博维茨回答。
勒博维茨说,卡罗尔确实符合创伤后应激障碍的一些标准,包括表现出受创伤影响的记忆迹象。她描述了在她接受评估的时候,卡罗尔“开始在座位上扭动”,因为她似乎“再次经历”了所谓的攻击。
她还告诉陪审团,强奸受害者通常会自责。
在本周早些时候的证词中,卡罗尔说:“我感到羞愧。我以为是我的错。”
“为什么你认为这是你的错,卡罗尔女士?”她的律师迈克尔·费拉拉问道。
“因为我和他调情,大笑,度过了一段美好的时光。这是高度喜剧。这很有趣,”卡罗尔说。
由六名男性和三名女性组成的九人陪审团正在权衡卡罗尔的诽谤和殴打索赔,并决定潜在的金钱赔偿。
卡罗尔的诉讼是她第二次针对特朗普的强奸指控。
她此前起诉特朗普2019年,时任总统否认了她的强奸指控告诉山丘卡罗尔“完全在撒谎”,他说,“我要带着极大的敬意说:第一,她不是我喜欢的类型。第二,它从未发生过。从来没发生过,好吗?”那起诽谤诉讼陷入了僵局程序上的来回关于特朗普作为总统发表这些言论时是否是以联邦政府雇员的官方身份行事的问题。
如果特朗普被确定为政府雇员,美国政府将替代作为该诉讼的被告-这意味着该案件将会不了了之,因为政府不能因诽谤而被起诉。
本月的审判正在进行,特朗普第三次寻求入主白宫,同时面临众多法律挑战与1月6日的国会大厦袭击有关,他在离开白宫后对机密材料的处理,以及可能试图干涉格鲁吉亚2020年的投票。富尔顿县地方检察官法妮·威利斯上周说的她将在今年夏天决定是否对特朗普或他的盟友提出刑事指控。
3rd accuser testifies Trump started 'kissing me' during 2005 visit to Mar-a-Lago
A former People magazine writer, testifying in E. Jean Carroll's defamation and battery case against former PresidentDonald Trump, told the jury that Trump pushed her against a wall and began kissing her while she was visiting his Mar-a-Lago estate on assignment in 2005.
Carroll, whobrought the lawsuitin November, alleges that Trump defamed her in a 2022Truth Social postby calling her allegations "a Hoax and a lie" and saying "This woman is not my type!" when he denied her claim that Trump raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the 1990s.
The former Elle magazine columnist added a charge of battery under a recently adopted New York law that allows adult survivors of sexual abuse to sue their alleged attacker regardless of the statute of limitations. Trump has denied all allegations that he raped Carroll or defamed her.
Former People writer Natasha Stoynoff told the jury she was at Mar-a-Lago in late 2005 to write an article on Donald and Melania Trump's first wedding anniversary, when Trump asked to show her a room in the estate.
"I followed him and we went in through these back doors and down the hall and turned right into a room," Stoynoff said. "I'm looking around, I'm thinking, 'Wow, really nice room,' wondering what he wants to show me, and I hear the door shut behind me."
Stoynoff said she had interviewed Trump on a number of occasions as part of her assignment on the "Trump beat" for People. She testified that Trump asked her into the room while Melania was changing clothes in preparation for their interview outside.
"By the time I turn around, he has my hands on my shoulders and he pushes me against the wall and he starts kissing me," Stoynoff testified. She said that she tried to shove him away.
"He came toward me again and I tried to shove him again," Stoynoff said. "He was kissing me and he was against me, holding my shoulder back."
She testified that she said no words.
"I couldn't. I tried. I was just flustered and shocked. No words came out of me," Stoynoff told the jury.
"Did you tell him to stop?" Carroll's attorney, Michael Ferrara, asked. "I couldn't," Stoynoff answered. She said the encounter ended when a butler entered the room.
Stoynoff described herself as "ashamed and humiliated at what had happened," and testified she said nothing about it to her bosses at People because she didn't want to cause trouble at the magazine.
She said she first decided to tell her story after she saw the infamous "Access Hollywood" tape that surfaced during the 2016 presidential campaign, on which Trump is overheard boasting to then-host Billy Bush aboutgrabbing and kissing womenwithout consent.
"You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait," Trump says on the tape, which was played for the jury. "And when you're a star they let you do it ... You can do anything."
"Whatever you want," another voice on the tape is heard saying.
"Grab them by the p----," Trump says. "You can do anything."
After Stoynoff made her allegation in 2016, Trumpdenied her claimby saying "Look at her. You tell me what you think. I don't think so," in a response that Carroll's attorneys said echoed his assertion that Carroll was "not my type."
On cross-examination, Trump attorney Joe Tacopina asked Stoynofff if she had a legal claim against Trump. She said no.
Stoynoff is one of two women who the court has ruled are allowed to testify about prior alleged assaults by Trump. On Tuesday, Jessica Leeds told jurors that Trumpgroped her during a flightto New York in 1979, in what Carroll's attorneys said showed a pattern of behavior on Trump's part.
Leeds, who first made her allegations toThe New York Timesjust before the 2016 presidential election, testified that she was seated next to Trump in the first-class section, "when all of a sudden Trump decided to kiss me and grope me."
"It was when he started putting his hand up my skirt, that gave me a jolt of strength," testified Leeds, who said she freed herself and went "storming back to my seat in the back of coach."
Trump has denied the allegations.
Earlier Wednesday, Tacopina told Judge Lewis Kaplan that Trump will not mount a defense in the case.
Tacopina told the judge that he had decided not to call an expert witness that had been expected to testify for the defense. "We're not going to move forward," Tacopina said.
The judge told the jury to expect to get the case "early next week."
Carroll's sister, Cande Carroll, testified Wednesday afternoon that she found out about her sister's alleged rape in 2019 when Carroll sent her an email containing a link to an excerpt of Carroll's 2019 book that contained the rape allegation.
That she found out about it that way was hardly surprising, she said, because she and her older sister "just didn't talk about those things."
On cross-examination, the younger Carroll testified that she and Carroll had a close relationship in the 1990s when the alleged rape occurred.
"You talked almost daily?" defense attorney Perry Brandt asked. "Most days," Carroll responded, before Brandt asked her to affirm that the first she had heard of the alleged sexual assault by Trump was in 2019.
Earlier Wednesday, a psychologist testified that Carroll continued to shop at Bergdorf Goodman after the alleged attack because "she didn't feel that Bergdorf Goodman raped her."
"She didn't blame the store. She blamed herself," said Dr. Leslie Lebowitz, who evaluated Carroll for the case.
The defense suggested the fact that Carroll continued to shop at Bergdorf's, saved the dress she wore the evening of the alleged assault, and watched Trump's reality television show, "The Apprentice," were behaviors out of step with thedeep traumaCarroll said she suffered.
Lebowitz pushed back against the inference from the defense that Carroll's rape claim against Trump could not be true because she did not act like it actually happened.
"I think anywhere Ms. Carroll could see evidence that she was negatively affected by what happened, she would fight against it. So to not go back into Bergdorf's would have been really obvious, given how much she loved that store," Lebowitz said.
The same holds true for the dress, Lebowitz said.
"I think that she loves clothes and that was the most expensive dress she'd ever brought," Lebowitz said. "It would have been impossible to avoid the realization that she was that negatively affected."
As for watching "The Apprentice," Lebowitz said there was excitement about the show in Carroll's professional and social circles. To not watch would have forced her to reveal why.
On cross-examination, defense attorney Chad Seigel asked Lebowitz if her diagnosis concluded that Carroll had been raped.
"You're not offering an opinion in this case whether Ms. Carroll was raped?" Seigel asked.
"I'm not," Lebowitz replied.
Lebowitz said that Carroll did meet some of the criteria for post-traumatic stress disorder, including exhibiting signs of memories affected by trauma. She described a moment during her evaluation when Carroll "began to squirm in her seat" because she appeared to be "re-experiencing" elements of the alleged assault.
She also told the jury that rape victims commonly experience self-blame.
During her testimony earlier this week, Carroll said, "I was ashamed. I thought it was my fault."
"Why did you think it was your fault, Ms. Carroll?" her attorney, Michael Ferrara, asked.
"Because I was flirting with him and laughing and having one of the great times. It was high comedy. It was funny," Carroll said.
The nine-member jury of six men and three women is weighing Carroll's defamation and battery claims and deciding potential monetary damages.
Carroll's lawsuit is her second against Trump related to her rape allegation.
Shepreviously sued Trumpin 2019 after the then-president denied her rape claim bytelling The Hillthat Carroll was "totally lying," saying, "I'll say it with great respect: No. 1, she's not my type. No. 2, it never happened. It never happened, OK?" That defamation suit has been caught in aprocedural back-and-forthover the question of whether Trump, as president, was acting in his official capacity as an employee of the federal government when he made those remarks.
If Trump is determined to have been acting as a government employee, the U.S. government would substitute as the defendant in that suit -- which means that case would go away, since the government cannot be sued for defamation.
This month's trial is taking place as Trump seeks the White House for a third time, while facingnumerous legal challengesrelated to the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, his handling of classified material after leaving the White House, and possible attempts to interfere in Georgia's 2020 vote. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willissaid last weekshe would decide whether to file criminal charges against Trump or his allies this summer.