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在与拜登会晤之前,麦卡锡表示,债务和支出协议需要“本周”达成

2023-05-23 08:31 -ABC  -  577300

乔·拜登总统和众议院议长凯文·麦卡锡将于周一下午晚些时候在椭圆形办公室会面直接协商距离达成债务上限和支出协议仅有10天时间,否则将面临史无前例的违约风险。

在一对一会谈之前,白宫谈判代表周一早些时候回到国会山,与共和党谈判代表进行了近三个小时的会晤。

之后,麦卡锡在周一下午早些时候告诉记者,拜登需要在“本周”之前达成协议,以便在6月1日“X日”之前通过众议院和参议院,当时财政部长简·耶伦表示美国可能违约。

耶伦周日警告说,6月1日是提高债务上限的“硬期限”,在不违约的情况下坚持到6月中旬的可能性“相当低”。

当被问及他是否认为周一晚上就能达成协议时,麦卡锡说,“我认为越早达成协议越好。我想我们可以。我们今晚可以达成交易。我们明天就可以达成协议,但你必须在本周内完成一些事情,以便能够通过它,并将其提交给参议院。”

“我们将需要几天的时间来写它,并确保每个人都能阅读它,”他说,指的是众议院议员。

他指出,他为成为议长做出了让步,回到了以前的规则,即要求众议院成员在投票之前有72小时的时间审查立法。

他说,短暂的时间表使它“更加困难”,但他补充说,“我认为这将使这一切发生。”

随着谈判的继续,另一个隐忧是,如果达成协议,麦卡锡是否有足够的票数在众议院通过该协议。

当被问及他是否可以指望极右翼的众议院共和党人投票支持债务上限协议,或者他是否需要得到民主党人的支持时,麦卡锡犹豫了。

他说:“我认为,每当你与总统协商达成协议时,民主党人和共和党人都会投赞成票。”

拥有数十名共和党强硬派的众议院自由核心小组(House Freedom Caucus)呼吁停止与拜登政府的谈判,而是将重点放在通过参议院的《限制、储蓄、增长法案》(Limit,Save,Grow Act)上。该法案将大幅削减支出,以换取民主党人认为不可能实现的一年期债务上限上调。

他们的反对意味着麦卡锡可能需要大量民主党人的投票才能通过债务限额协议。一些进步人士警告说,如果拜登向共和党人让步太多,就会遭到抵制,并呼吁他利用第14修正案在这个问题上采取单方面行动。

周一早些时候,麦卡锡进入国会大厦时继续批评民主党的支出,拒绝透露白宫是否有任何行动。

麦卡锡说:“这里的根本问题是,民主党自从获得多数席位以来一直沉迷于支出,这种情况将会停止,我们将比去年花费更少。”

虽然麦卡锡说他期待着下午5:30在白宫与总统的会晤,但他也借此机会抨击了拜登。

“在最后期限内处理危机是最糟糕的处理方式。这就是共和党人采取行动的原因,”他说。

拜登和麦卡锡周日发表了讲话,此前谈判在周末陷入停滞,主要是在支出和预算上限长度的问题上。

拜登说,通话“进行得很好”,麦卡锡称这是一次“富有成效”的谈话,但强调“没有达成一致”

美国广播公司新闻资深国会记者雷切尔·斯科特报道说,共和党人拒绝了白宫提出的削减军事和国内支出的提议,包括与住房、教育和科学研究有关的资金。

拜登呼吁将增税也包括在提高债务上限的协议中,这也遭到了共和党的反对。众议院预算委员会主席、众议员乔迪·阿灵顿(Jodey Arrington)告诉美国广播公司(ABC)“本周”(This Week)的联合主播玛莎·拉达茨(Martha Raddatz),周日增税“不在讨论范围内”。

麦卡锡此前曾表示,原则上需要在过去的这个周末达成协议,以清除一项法案,并在6月1日之前将其送到拜登的办公桌上。

当美国广播公司(ABC)的伊丽莎白·舒尔茨(Elizabeth Schulze)周日被问及他开始推动立法的截止日期是什么时候时,麦卡锡拒绝透露细节,但他表示,他仍然相信国会最终将能够推动立法。

Ahead of meeting with Biden, McCarthy says debt, spending deal needed 'this week'

President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy will meet late Monday afternoon in the Oval Office todirectly negotiatewith just 10 days to reach a debt ceiling and spending deal -- or risk an unprecedented default.

Ahead of their one-on-one session, White House negotiators arrived back on Capitol Hill early Monday and met for nearly three hours with Republican negotiators.

Afterward, McCarthy told reporters early Monday afternoon that Biden would need a deal by "this week" in order for it to pass the House and Senate before the June 1 "X-date" when Treasury Secretary Jane Yellen has said the U.S. could default.

Yellen warned Sunday that June 1 is a "hard deadline" for raising the debt limit, and the possibility of making it to mid-June without default is "quite low."

PHOTO: Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., talks to reporters about the debt limit negotiations outside his office at the Capitol in Washington, May 22, 2023.

Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., talks to reporters about the debt limit negotiations outside his office at the Capitol in Washington, May 22, 2023.

J. Scott Applewhite/AP

Asked if he thought there could be a deal as soon as Monday night, McCarthy said, "I thought it was better to have a deal sooner. I think we can. We can get a deal tonight. We can get a deal tomorrow, but you've got to get something done this week to be able to pass it and move it to the Senate."

"We're going to need a couple of days to write it and to make sure that everyone's able to read it," he said, referring to House members.

He pointed to a concession he made to become speaker, going back to a previous rule that requires House members get 72 hours to review legislation before voting on it.

The short timeline makes it "more difficult," he said, but added, "I think this will make it all happen."

Another looming concern as negotiations continue is whether McCarthy, if a deal is reached, will have the votes to pass it in the House.

When asked if he can count on far-right House Republicans to vote for a debt ceiling deal or if he'll need to get support from Democrats, McCarthy demurred.

"I think anytime you come to an agreement that you negotiate with the president, Democrats and Republicans are both going to vote for it," he said.

The House Freedom Caucus, which boasts dozens of Republican hardliners, called for talks with the Biden administration to stop and instead for the focus to be on getting the Limit, Save, Grow Act through the Senate -- a bill that would deeply cut spending in exchange a one-year debt limit increase deemed a nonstarter by Democrats.

Their opposition means McCarthy would possibly need a substantial number of Democratic votes to pass a debt limit deal. Several progressives have warned of pushback if Biden concedes too much ground to Republicans, and are calling for him to use the 14th Amendment to act unilaterally on the issue.

Earlier Monday, McCarthy continued to criticize Democrats' spending as he entered the Capitol, declining to say if there had been any movement with the White House.

"The underlying issue here is the Democrats since they took the majority have been addicted to spending and that's going to stop, we're going to spend less than we spent last year," McCarthy said.

And while McCarthy said he's looking forward to his meeting with the president at the White House at 5:30 p.m., he also took the opportunity to slam Biden.

"Managing a crisis in the last deadline is the worst way to handle this. That's why Republicans took action," he said.

Biden and McCarthy spoke on Sunday after negotiations stalled over the weekend, primarily over the issue of spending and the length of budget caps.

Biden said the call "went well" and McCarthy labelled it a "productive" conversation but emphasized there was "no agreement."

ABC News Senior Congressional Correspondent Rachel Scott reported Republicans rejected an offer from the White House that offered some cuts to military and domestic spending, including funds related to housing, education and scientific research.

Biden's call for tax increases to also be included in a deal to raise the debt ceiling has also received GOP pushback. Rep. Jodey Arrington, chairman of the House Budget Committee, told ABC's "This Week" co-anchor Martha Raddatz on Sunday tax increases were "not on the table for discussion."

McCarthy had previously said a deal would be needed in principle by this past weekend to clear a bill and send it to Biden's desk by June 1.

When asked by ABC's Elizabeth Schulze on Sunday when his drop-dead date to begin moving legislation on the floor would be, McCarthy declined to get into specifics but said he still believes Congress will ultimately be able to move legislation forward.

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