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特朗普回应据称他炫耀“秘密”政府信息的录音

2023-06-20 08:58 -ABC  -  422436

尽管检察官对他提出了前所未有的指控周一,唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)坚称,在离开白宫后,他没有向其他人展示过一份机密文件。

前任总统福克斯新闻频道的布雷特·拜尔采访了我他在起诉书中最引人注目的部分之一向特朗普施压,起诉书概述了对他的37项联邦指控。

检察官在起诉书中写道,2021年7月21日,特朗普据称在新泽西州贝德明斯特的俱乐部向其他人展示了他所谓的“秘密信息”,并承认这些信息仍然是机密和“高度机密的”。

根据起诉书,特朗普据称表示,这些信息是“军方提供给我的”,似乎表明这些信息与攻击外国的计划有关。

检察官写道,所谓的交流被录了下来。

然而,在周一的福克斯新闻频道,当拜尔引用起诉书的这一部分时,川普进行了反驳。

“那不是文件,好吗?我有很多纸——我有报纸文章的复印件,我有杂志的复印件,”他说。

“没有文件。这是大量的文件和其他一切谈论伊朗和其他事情。它可能被搁置,也可能没有,但那不是一份文件,”特朗普说。“我没有文件本身。没有什么需要解密的。这些是报纸故事、杂志故事和文章。”

美国广播公司新闻此前报道称这段录音是在特朗普接受图书采访时录制的,随后被联邦检察官获得。

美国广播公司新闻也本月早些时候报道特朗普的律师没有找到特朗普在2021年的录音中提到的材料。

特朗普被佛罗里达州的联邦检察官起诉,涉嫌在离开白宫后不当处理政府机密。男性不服罪对指控。

在被传讯后对支持者的讲话中,他坚持说他“做了所有正确的事情”,“我完全有权拥有这些文件”,这一论点受到了外部法律专家的质疑。

PHOTO: Former U.S. President Donald Trump prepares to speak at the Trump National Golf Club on June 13, 2023 in Bedminster, N.J.

美国前总统唐纳德·特朗普准备于2023年6月13日在新泽西州贝德明斯特的特朗普国家高尔夫俱乐部发表演讲

Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images,文件

在接受福克斯新闻频道采访的其他地方,川普声称没有更多的机密记录,并错误地引用了《总统记录法案》( Presidential Records Act ),称该法案允许他在离任时带走政府记录。

他说他拿走这些文件是因为他在离开白宫时很匆忙,想检查一下他的个人物品。

“所以,像其他总统一样,我把东西拿出来。对我来说,我很匆忙地把它拿出来,但是人们把它打包,我们离开了,我的衣服还在里面。我有各种各样的个人物品,”他说。

“因为我有箱子——我想翻箱倒柜,把我所有的私人物品都拿出来,”他说。

他告诉拜尔他正在竞选总统再次“因为我想让美国再次伟大。我们很棒——我们在全世界都受到尊重。很简单。”

他还说,如果他再次当选,他不希望自己的孩子在他的政府中任职。女儿伊万卡在他的第一个任期内和丈夫贾里德·库什纳一起担任高级顾问。

“这对这个家庭来说太痛苦了,”他说。

他说,如果他赢得另一个任期,他希望“不要那么好斗”。

“我希望不要那么好斗,但我发现媒体非常不诚实,”他说。“如果我不好斗,我就无法表达我的意思。如果我不好斗,我不知道。我不认为你会赢。”

在采访中,特朗普批评了拜登政府,包括经济和外交政策,并将针对他的案件称为白宫司法部的“武器化”。

特别顾问杰克·史密斯,独立检察官去年由司法部长梅里克·加兰任命监督DOJ对川普的调查,为指控进行辩护。

“这份起诉书是由佛罗里达州南区的一个大陪审团投票表决的,”他在本月早些时候说,“我邀请每个人都完整地阅读它,以了解被指控罪行的范围和严重性。”

Trump responds to alleged recording of him showing off 'secret' government information

Despite what prosecutorsclaim in an unprecedented indictment against him, including an alleged recording of him saying otherwise, Donald Trump insisted on Monday that he hadn't shown a classified document to someone else after leaving the White House.

The former presidentwas interviewed by Fox News' Bret Baier, who pressed Trump on one of the most notable parts of the indictment that outlines the 37 federal charges against him.

Prosecutors wrote in the indictment that on July 21, 2021, Trump allegedly showed what he called "secret information" to other people at his club in Bedminster, New Jersey, and acknowledged it was still classified and "highly confidential."

According to the indictment, Trump allegedly said the information was "done by the military and given to me" and appeared to indicate it was related to plans for attacking a foreign country.

The alleged exchange was recorded, prosecutors wrote.

On Fox News on Monday, however, Trump pushed back when Baier cited that part of the indictment.

"It wasn't a document, OK? I had lots of paper -- I had copies of newspaper articles, I had copies of magazines," he said.

“There was no document. That was a massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And it may have been held up or may not, but that was not a document," Trump said. "I didn't have a document per se. There was nothing to declassify. These were newspaper stories, magazine stories and articles.”

ABC Newspreviously reported thatthe recording was made during part of a book interview Trump gave and was subsequently obtained by federal prosecutors.

ABC News alsoreported earlier this monththat Trump's attorneys had not located the material Trump was referencing in the recording from 2021.

Trump has been indicted by federal prosecutors in Florida related to his alleged mishandling of government secrets after leaving the White House. Hepleaded not guiltyto the charges.

In a speech to supporters after being arraigned, he maintained that he "did everything right" and "I had every right to have these documents," an argument which has been disputed by outside legal experts.

Elsewhere in his interview on Fox News, Trump claimed to have no more classified records and falsely cited the Presidential Records Act as giving him permission to take the government records with him when he left office.

He said he took the documents because he was rushing during his move from the White House and wanted to go through his personal items.

“So, like every other president, I take things out. And in my case, I took it out pretty much in a hurry, but people packed it up and we left and I had clothing in there. I had all sorts of personal items,” he said.

"Because I had boxes -- I want to go through the boxes and get all my personal things out," he said.

He told Baierthat he was running for presidentagain "because I want to make America great again. We had great -- we were respected all over the world. Very simple."

He also said he wouldn’t want his children to be in his administration if he is reelected. Daughter Ivanka served as a senior adviser during his first term alongside her husband, Jared Kushner.

"It's too painful for the family," he said.

Should he win another term, he said that he wants to be “less combative.”

“I would like to be less combative, but I find the press is extremely dishonest," he said. "And if I'm not combative, I don't get my word across. If I'm not combative, I don't know. I don't think you could win."

During the interview, Trump criticized the Biden administration -- including on the economy and foreign policy -- and labeled the case against him as "weaponization" of the Department of Justice by the White House.

Special counsel Jack Smith, an independent prosecutornamed last year by Attorney General Merrick Garlandto oversee the DOJ investigations of Trump, has defended the indictment.

"This indictment was voted by a grand jury of citizens in the Southern District of Florida," he said earlier this month, "and I invite everyone to read it in full to understand the scope and the gravity of the crimes charged."

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