中发生了重大更新俄罗斯-乌克兰冲突据专家称，在过去的几周里，这可能会对该地区产生重大影响。
美国广播公司新闻撰稿人、曾担任美国驻朝鲜部队指挥官的退役将军罗伯特·艾布拉姆斯(Robert Abrams)周一晚上接受了美国广播公司新闻直播(ABC News Live)的采访，讨论了瓦格纳集团(Wagner Group)叛乱失败的后果、正在进行的乌克兰反攻和朝鲜战争在立陶宛举行的北约峰会.
美国广播公司新闻:首先，俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京和瓦格纳民兵武装的首领叶夫根尼·普里戈津在普里戈津部队占领俄罗斯一个重要城市几天后举行了会晤。这次会议会发出什么信号?
退役将军罗伯特·艾布拉姆斯:首先，如果我们真的看到普京与普里戈津会面的证据，我会感到惊讶，我认为这是精心策划的。我个人的评估是，我怀疑我们会再次公开看到Prigozhin。我想他要么被藏起来，要么被送进监狱，要么被以其他方式处理，但我怀疑我们是否会再见到他。
ABC新闻直播:你认为他还活着吗?
艾布拉姆斯:我个人不认为他是，如果他是，他在某个监狱里。
ABC新闻直播:英国国防部表示，俄罗斯平均每天损失400名士兵，其中一半的伤亡可以通过适当的急救来避免。像这样的统计数据，他们告诉你这场战争对俄罗斯来说是如何进行的?
艾布拉姆斯:嗯，这是一个令人吃惊的统计数字，有50%的人死于我们所说的外伤。有人在战场上受伤，他们在得到适当的医疗护理之前就断气了，他们因伤势过重而死亡。50%的受伤致死率令人震惊。
这极大地打击了世界各地男女战士的士气。这就是为什么在我们自己的军队里，很多人都听说过它。我们称之为黄金时间规则，这就是为什么我们竭尽全力确保在受伤后，即在实施紧急急救后，我们将士兵送到急救站，在那里先进的救生护理可以在一小时内发生。因此，我们有98%的存活率。
所以我不得不说这已经严重打击了俄罗斯军队的士气。
ABC新闻直播:我们刚刚经历了乌克兰500天的战争。目前，乌克兰军队正处于反攻的早期阶段。给我们一个你如何看待反攻的感觉，以及乌克兰在这一点上的成功。
艾布拉姆斯:嗯，我想这是泽伦斯基总统自己的说法，进展没有大家希望的那么快或者那么好。但是我们必须明白一些事情。俄罗斯人一直在准备这些防御设施，他们了解这里的地形。但是在一年多的时间里，这是一个根深蒂固的敌人，有无数的雷区，障碍，壕沟，[和]坦克障碍，上面有瞄准的火炮目标。最后，一个相当顽固的敌人。所以会很困难。正如我之前说过和描述过的，这将是一场激烈的战斗。但很明显，势头是在乌克兰武装部队。
ABC新闻直播:引发这场战争的因素之一是乌克兰加入北约的可能性。芬兰将于4月加入北约，北约将于本周举行会议。瑞典正在加入的道路上。但是拜登总统表示，乌克兰还没有准备好成为北约成员。那么在你看来，乌克兰还需要做什么才能获得支持才能入盟?
2023年7月8日，乌克兰总统沃洛季米尔·泽伦斯基在伊斯坦布尔参观圣乔治大教堂时，参加了主教巴塞洛缪一世主持的仪式。
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艾布拉姆斯:嗯，我认为乌克兰加入北约到底需要什么还不清楚。我认为上周发生了几件大事。第一个是，据我所知，乌克兰人将不再需要遵循[成员资格行动计划]程序;那是留给他们申请加入北约的。
许多人忘记了乌克兰在2008年被邀请加入北约，但没有明确的途径。因此，他们在2008年启动了[会员行动计划]程序。它在2010年被暂停，因为乌克兰投票选举了一位亲俄罗斯的友好总统。所以他横向暂停了他们的申请过程。
我认为，另一件表明我们正走在明确道路上的重要事情是，土耳其今天宣布将支持瑞典加入北大西洋公约组织。这很重要，因为现在在维尔纽斯参加首脑会议的国家元首们可以集中精力建立一条明确的道路。
Retired US general questions alleged Putin, Prigozhin meeting
Significant updates have taken place in theRussian-Ukrainian conflictover the last few weeks that could have major repercussions in the region, according to experts.
Retired Gen. Robert Abrams, an ABC News contributor who served as the commander of United States Forces-Korea, spoke with ABC News Live Monday evening to discuss the fallout of the failed rebellion by the Wagner Group, the ongoing Ukraine counteroffensive and theNATO summit in Lithuania.
ABC NEWS: Let's start with that claim that Russian President Vladimir Putin and the head of the Wagner militia forces, Yevgeny Prigozhin, met just days after Prigozhin forces seized a key Russian city. What could this meeting signal?
RETIRED GEN. ROBERT ABRAMS: Well, first, I'd be surprised if we actually see proof of life that Putin met with Prigozhin, and I think it's highly staged. And my personal assessment is that I doubt we'll see Prigozhin ever again publicly. I think he'll either be put in hiding or sent to prison or dealt with some other way, but I doubt we'll ever see him again.
ABC NEWS LIVE: Do you think he's alive?
ABRAMS: I personally don't think he is, and if he is, he's in a prison somewhere.
ABC NEWS LIVE: The UK's Ministry of Defense says that Russia is losing an average of 400 soldiers a day, saying that half of those casualties could have been prevented with proper first aid. Stats like that, what do they tell you about how this war is going so far for Russia?
ABRAMS: Well, that's a startling statistic, and to have a 50% [rate of] what we call died of wounds of rate. Someone is injured on the battlefield and they expire before they can reach appropriate medical care, and they die of their wounds. A 50% died of wounds rate is astounding.
And it's a huge crush on the morale of fighting men and women everywhere. And that's why in our own military, many people have heard of it. We call it the golden hour rule, which is why we go to such great lengths to ensure that after point of injury, that point of injury after immediate first aid is applied, we get our soldiers to an initial aid station where advanced life-saving care can happen within an hour. And with that, we have a 98% survival rate.
So I'd have to say that this has got to be severely demoralizing to the Russian forces.
ABC NEWS LIVE: And we just passed 500 days of war in Ukraine. Right now, Ukrainian troops are in the early stages of a counteroffensive. Give us a sense of how you think that counteroffensive is going and what success would look like for Ukraine at this point.
ABRAMS: Well, I think it's by President Zelensky's own account, it's not going as fast or as well as everyone had hoped. But we have to understand a few things. The Russians have been preparing these defenses and they understand this terrain. But for over a year, this is a well-entrenched enemy with countless minefields, obstacles, ditches, [and] tank obstacles with well-sighted artillery targets on top of them. And in the end, a pretty hardened enemy. So it's going to be difficult. It's going to be, as I've said and I've described before, a slugfest. But clearly, the momentum is with the Ukrainian armed forces.
ABC NEWS LIVE: One of the factors that started this war was the potential of Ukraine joining NATO. NATO is meeting this week with Finland joining in April. Sweden is on the path to joining. But President Biden says that Ukraine isn't ready to become a NATO member yet. So in your view, what does Ukraine still need to do in order to get support in order to join the alliance?
ABRAMS: Well, I think it's a bit unclear, what exactly is going to be required for Ukraine to join NATO. I think there are a couple of significant happenings that have occurred in the last week. The first one is, is that what I've been informed is that the Ukrainians will no longer have to follow the [Membership Action Plan] process; that's been set aside for their application into NATO.
Many people forget that Ukraine was offered membership in NATO in 2008, but with no clear pathway. So they started the [Membership Action Plan] process in 2008. It was suspended in 2010 because Ukraine voted in a pro-Russian friendly president. So he laterally suspended their application process.
I think the other significant thing that's demonstrating that we're on a clear pathway is the announcement today that Turkey is going to support Sweden's access to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. That is significant because now the heads of states that were there in Vilnius for the summit can focus on establishing a clear pathway.
