在一次新的采访中，前总统唐纳德·特朗普拒绝或避免回答许多具体问题关于他1月6日的行为-但坚持认为是他决定挑战2020年的选举，其方式现在是中心他面临的四项指控中的两项.
男性对所有指控表示不服罪并以政治动机为由驳回起诉。
在…里NBC新闻的克里斯汀·韦尔克的采访在上周部分内容公布后，特朗普于周日在“会见新闻界”播出，他同意，在谎称上次总统选举不合法时，他在发号施令。
“至于我是否相信它被操纵了?当然可以。这是我的决定。但是我听了一些人的话。”有人这么说，他说。
正在寻求2024年共和党总统候选人提名的特朗普在接受韦尔克采访时不时变得愤怒，拒绝回答他是否在2021年1月6日给执法部门打了电话，他那天给谁打了电话，以及他是如何看着混乱展开的，声称他“表现得很好”。
“我不会告诉你的。我会在适当的时候告诉人们，”他说。
他坚持说，他希望“以和平和爱国的方式”前往国会大厦，呼应他1月6日早些时候在白宫外发表的演讲。
然而，在这些相同的言论中，他还鼓励支持者游行到国会，立法者正在认证2020年的选举结果。“如果你不拼命战斗，你将不再拥有一个国家，”他当时说。
在接受美国全国广播公司新闻采访时，当被问及是否会赦免1月6日被判有罪的人时，特朗普说他“会看一看”:“如果我认为合适，我当然会这么做。”
根据司法部的说法，1000多人被逮捕与政府1月6日的调查有关。
DOJ表示，当天有300多人被指控袭击、抵抗或妨碍官员或员工，100多名被告被指控使用致命武器。
据DOJ报道，1月6日，大约140名警察遭到袭击。
如果他再次当选总统，他可能会原谅自己-这将是宪法下前所未有的举动，没有其他总司令采取过-特朗普在采访的另一个摘录中告诉韦尔克，这“非常不可能”。
“我做错了什么?我什么也没做。嗯，你的意思是因为我挑战了一次选举，他们想把我关进监狱，”他说。
“我做的最后一件事就是原谅自己，”他说。
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他再次表示，他计划在审判时宣誓作证反驳政府的指控他命令一名工作人员删除他在Mar-a-Lago庄园的监控录像，以阻止对他在办公室外处理政府机密的调查。
特朗普称之为“虚假指控”。
川普受到四项刑事指控:两项是联邦级别的，由特别顾问杰克·史密斯在华盛顿州和佛罗里达州提出;一个在纽约州法院;一个在佐治亚州法院。
华盛顿和佐治亚州的起诉与推翻2020年选举结果的运动有关。佛罗里达州的指控与特朗普离开白宫后处理机密材料有关，纽约州的指控与他在2016年大选前向一名成人电影女演员支付封口费有关，他的律师此前将此比作敲诈。
在华盛顿的起诉书中，特朗普被指控实施“犯罪计划”以继续掌权。
检察官声称，该阴谋涉及六名未透露姓名的同谋，包括招募一系列针对几个州的所谓“假选举人”;利用司法部进行“虚假选举犯罪调查”;并试图让时任副总统迈克·彭斯“改变选举结果”，但彭斯拒绝了。
特朗普否认所有不法行为，并表示他被指控是因为他的政治，而不是法律。检察官对此提出质疑。
“特朗普总统一直遵循法律和宪法，并听取了许多卓有成就的律师的建议，”他的竞选团队在华盛顿被起诉后发表声明说。
特朗普在接受韦尔克采访时表示，他不担心坐牢，也不考虑这个问题。
“不，我真的不知道，”他说。“我想都不敢想。我想我的构造有点不同，因为有人过来问我，'你是怎么做到的，先生?'“你是怎么做到的，”我想都不敢想...我所想的就是让国家变得伟大。"
韦尔克问他在竞选中说的话是什么意思他是对他的支持者的“报复”。他说，在他看来，这是为了恢复国家的法律和秩序，他说他“永远不会”寻求利用执法来打击他的对手。
关于堕胎权，台湾和他的妻子
在堕胎问题上，特朗普不愿透露他是否会签署禁止15周堕胎的联邦立法。特朗普的最高法院任命的人在去年取消堕胎的宪法保障方面发挥了关键作用。
堕胎反对者在全国范围内推行严格的限制。
"我会和双方坐下来谈判，"他说，重复了他的一个常见的部分--他是一个交易商。
自从最高法院在2022年做出决定以来，选民们在保守和自由的州都直接参与了堕胎，并且在每个案例中，他们都投票保护堕胎权。
去年中期选举的出口民调显示，这个问题在密歇根等摇摆州非常重要。
特朗普仍对联邦层面的堕胎禁令不置可否，称将其留给各州“可能更好”。
特朗普还拒绝回答如果中国入侵台湾，他是否会派遣美国军队的问题。台湾是自治的岛屿，北京认为是一个分裂的省份。
“只有愚蠢的人才会”回答这个问题，他说。
另外，这位前总统谈到了前第一夫人梅兰妮·特朗普迄今为止没有出现在竞选活动中——这是批评者在竞选活动中提出的问题。
“她是一个注重隐私的人，一个伟大的人，一个非常自信的人，”他这样评价他的妻子。
“她会在那里，”他说，“老实说，我喜欢让她远离它。这么龌龊，这么卑鄙。”
Trump refuses to answer questions about Jan. 6 conduct but says he 'behaved so well'
In a new interview, former President Donald Trump refused or avoided answering many specific questionsabout his conduct on Jan. 6-- but maintained that it was his decision to challenge the 2020 election, the manner of which is now at the centerof two of the four indictments he faces.
Hehas pleaded not guilty to all chargesand dismissed the prosecutions as politically motivated.
Inthe interview with NBC News' Kristen Welker, which aired Sunday on "Meet the Press" after portions were released last week, Trump agreed that he was calling the shots when it came to falsely claiming that the last presidential election was illegitimate.
"As to whether or not I believe it was rigged? Sure. It was my decision. But I listened to some people. Some people said that," he said.
Trump, who is seeking the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, at times grew angry when being interviewed by Welker, refusing to answer whether he called law enforcement on Jan. 6, 2021, who he called that day and how he watched the chaos unfold, claiming he "behaved so well."
"I'm not going to tell you. I'll tell people later at an appropriate time," he said.
He insisted that he wanted to go down to the Capitol "peacefully and patriotically," echoing the speech he gave outside the White House earlier on Jan. 6.
However, in those same remarks, he also encouraged supporters to march to Congress where lawmakers were certifying the 2020 election results. "If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," he said then.
In his NBC News interview, Trump said he was "going to look" when asked if he would pardon the people convicted of crimes on Jan. 6: "I certainly might if I think it's appropriate."
According to the Department of Justice,more than 1,000 people have been arrestedin connection with the government's Jan. 6 investigation.
More than 300 people have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees that day, the DOJ has said, and more than 100 defendants have been accused of using deadly weapons.
About 140 police were attacked on Jan. 6, according to the DOJ.
On the subject of potentially pardoning himself if he is reelected president -- which would be an unprecedented move under the Constitution, undertaken by no other commander in chief -- Trump told Welker in another excerpt from the interview that it was "very unlikely."
"What did I do wrong? I didn't do anything. Well, you mean because I challenged an election, they want to put me in jail," he said.
"The last thing I'd ever do is give myself a pardon," he said.
He said, again, that he planned to testify under oath at trialto push back on the government's allegationthat he ordered a staffer to delete security footage at his Mar-a-Lago estate in order to obstruct the investigation into his handling of government secrets while out of office.
Trump called it a "fake charge."
Trump is charged in four criminal cases: two at the federal level, brought by special counsel Jack Smith, in Washington and Florida; one in New York state court; and one in Georgia state court.
The Washington and Georgia indictments are related to the campaign to overturn the 2020 election results. The Florida indictment is related to Trump's handling of classified material after leaving the White House and the New York charges are related to the hush money he paid to an adult film actress before the 2016 election, which his attorneys previously likened to blackmail.
In the Washington indictment, Trump is accused of undertaking a "criminal scheme" to remain in power.
Prosecutors claim the plot involved six unnamed co-conspirators, included enlisting a slate of so-called "fake electors" targeting several states; using the Justice Department to conduct "sham election crime investigations"; and trying to enlist then-Vice President Mike Pence to "alter the election results," which Pence declined to do.
Trump has denied all wrongdoing and said that he is being charged because of his politics, not the law. Prosecutors dispute that.
"President Trump has always followed the law and the Constitution, with advice from many highly accomplished attorneys," his campaign said in a statement after he was indicted in Washington.
In his interview with Welker, Trump said he doesn't worry about going to prison and he doesn't think about it.
"No, I don't really," he said. "I don't even think about it. I'm built a little differently I guess, because I have had people come up to me and say, 'How do you do it, sir? How do you do it?' I don't even think about it ... All I think about is making the country great."
Welker asked what he means when he says in his campaign thathe is "retribution" for his supporters. He said it was about restoring law and order to the country, as he saw it, and he said he would "never" seek to use law enforcement to target his opponents.
On abortion rights, Taiwan and his wife
On abortion, Trump, whose Supreme Court appointees were crucial in scrapping the constitutional guarantee to abortion access last year, would not say whether he would sign federal legislation that would ban abortion at 15 weeks.
Abortion opponents have pushed for strict restrictions nationwide.
"I would sit down with both sides and I'd negotiate something," he said, repeating a common part of his pitch -- that he is a deal-maker.
Since the Supreme Court's decision in 2022, voters have directly weighed in on abortion in both conservative and liberal states and in each case they have voted to protect abortion access.
Exit polling in last year's midterms showed the issue was important in swing states like Michigan.
Trump remained noncommittal on an abortion ban at the federal level, saying it was "probably better" to leave it to the states.
Trump also refused to answer the question of whether he'd send U.S. troops if China invaded Taiwan, the self-governing island that Beijing regards as a breakaway province.
"Only stupid people are going" to answer that, he said.
Separately, the former president addressed former first lady Melania Trump's lack of a presence on the trail so far -- something that has been called out by critics during the campaign.
"She's a private person, a great person, very confident person," he said of his wife.
"She'll be out there," he said, "and, honestly, I like to keep her away from it. It's so nasty and so mean."
