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维维克·拉马斯瓦米在市政厅停下来邀请学生抗议者进入

2023-10-08 10:26 -ABC  -  212179

新罕布什尔州亨尼克“我们有投票权!”加布里埃尔·雷诺兹是新英格兰学院的一名大二学生,他透过西蒙中心大房间的窗户呼喊着。

雷诺兹和平抗议总统候选人Vivek Ramaswamy,他高呼投票年龄,手持自制的黑色记号笔,上面写着“墨西哥没有永远的战争”,并弹着他的吉他。拉马斯瓦米呼吁将投票年龄提高到25岁,除非18岁的公民通过与寻求美国公民身份的移民相同的公民测试。

拉马斯瓦米参加了大卫·韦伯在新英格兰学院(New England College)举办的SiriusXM市政厅会议,在周一早上播出的长达一小时的录音广播中,雷诺兹一直在要求变革。

PHOTO: Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, left, invites New England College student Gabriel Reynolds, who was protesting him outside an event,, Friday, Oct. 6, 2023, in Henniker, N.H. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa)

共和党总统候选人Vivek Ramaswamy(左)邀请在一次活动外抗议他的新英格兰大学学生Gabriel Reynolds加入竞选活动并提出一个问题,星期五,2023年10月6日

在活动的广播部分之后,Ramaswamy选择了接受更多的群众提问。

但是,意识到外面的噪音,拉马斯瓦米示意主人韦伯,“大卫,为什么不让外面的先生进来。他显然想进来。”

拉马斯瓦米和大卫·韦伯一起走出学生中心,亲自邀请这位单身抗议者进入市政厅。媒体跟随在外面,跳下舞台上的媒体升降台捕捉潜在的互动,而与会者挤满了窗户,观看活动的展开。

“你愿意进来加入我们吗,因为我注意到你一直在大声疾呼?”拉马斯瓦米继续说,“我只是想让你知道,你不必在外面。你可以进来了。”

雷诺兹指出,他被告知不允许带标语参加活动。

“我跟那件事有关系。如果你愿意,你可以把标志带进来,但是当你有自己的声音时,谁需要标志呢?进来吧,我们给你一个机会问你一个问题。”

在着手帮助雷诺收拾吉他设备后,拉马斯瓦米提到,“我一直在试图进入的房间外面,所以这很令人沮丧。”

在接下来的活动中,他引导这位年轻的学生坐在前排。

当混战过渡到市政厅时,拉马斯瓦米允许雷诺兹提出最后一个问题。

他问道,“当我们实际上可以帮助他们在经济上取得成功,让他们摆脱极度贫困,而没有一个美国人流血的时候,你怎么能指望在入侵墨西哥以摧毁卡特尔的背后得到美国人民的支持呢?如果你剥夺了我们的投票权,你怎么能指望赢得对这样一场战争的支持呢?”

拉马斯瓦米回答说,他们两人其实有很多共同点。

“首先,如果在这个问题上有反战倾向,孩子,我们有共同之处吗?我是说,我们现在所处的世界。梦游般地卷入对美国国家利益无益的乌克兰战争。两党的共识正在把我们越推越远地推进这场战争。“我非常担心我们正慢慢接近与一个核大国的重大武装冲突,可能是第三次世界大战...所以有一个总统候选人是反战的,他想让我们远离第三次世界大战。那就是我。”

在这位政治家和学生之间可能是一个关键的积极时刻,雷诺兹说,他对混乱感到失望、不知所措和慌乱。他甚至提到,他计划在即将到来的初选中投票给玛丽安娜·威廉森。

ABC新闻在市政厅采访了雷诺兹,他将拉马斯瓦米的行为描述为公关噱头。

“这感觉有点像公关噱头。好像我的观点在某种程度上被轻视了。我很感激你的姿态,但我知道他只是为了镜头才这么做的。是的,所以我现在有点不知所措。”

自从这一行动展开以来,拉马斯瓦米竞选团队在他们的社交媒体上贴满了这一交流,暗示这是“新罕布什尔州的美好一天”。

但是雷诺兹对拉马斯瓦米的回答并不满意。

“他回答了我一半的问题。但我仍然认为他在墨西哥有帝国主义的影响力,这不是这个国家回避的事情。我们在贸易交易中看到了这一点。我们看到它与北美自由贸易协定在20世纪90年代导致古巴起义,”雷诺兹解释说。“我们的墨西哥兄弟姐妹。我们的美国兄弟姐妹...不需要为此流血。我认为,为了不在这里发生冲突,我们有可用的经济资源。”

在他们在外面开玩笑的时候,Ramaswamy提到他们两个有很多共同之处。

当被问及雷诺兹是否有同感时,雷诺兹忧郁地停顿了很长时间,把手放在心口上,“嗯,我们都有心脏。”

Vivek Ramaswamy stops town hall to invite student protestor inside

Henniker, New Hampshire --“We have the right to vote!” Gabriel Reynolds, a sophomore at New England College, chanted through the windows of Simon Center Great Room.

Reynolds was peacefully protesting presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy by chanting about the voting age, holding a homemade black Sharpie sign with the words "No Forever War in Mexico," and playing his guitar. Ramaswamy calls for increasing the voting age to 25, unless an 18 year-old citizen passes the same civics test given to immigrants seeking American citizenship.

Ramaswamy took part in a SiriusXM town hall at New England College, hosted by David Webb, where, throughout the hour-long taped radio broadcast set to air Monday morning, there was Reynolds lingering voice demanding change.

Following the radio broadcast portion of the event, Ramaswamy opted to take more questions from the crowd.

But, aware of the noise outside, Ramaswamy signaled to host Webb, “David, why don’t I let the gentleman outside in. He clearly wants to come in.”

Ramaswamy exited the student center with David Webb to personally invite the single protestor into the town hall. The press followed outside, jumping off the staged media risers to catch the potential interaction, while attendees crowded the windows to watch the event unfold.

“Would you like to come in and join us because I’ve noticed you’ve been very vocal through this?” Ramaswamy continued, “I just want you to know that you don’t have to be outside. You’re allowed in.”

Reynolds noted that he was told he wasn’t allowed to bring signs into the event.

“I have something to do with that. You can bring in the signs if you want, but who needs to sign when you have your own voice. Come on inside and we will give you a chance to ask a question.”

After proceeding to help pack up Reynold’s guitar equipment, Ramaswamy mentioned, “I’ve been outside of rooms that I’ve tried to get into before, so that’s been frustrating.”

He ushered the young student to sit in the front row for the remainder of the event.

As the scrum transitioned to a town hall, Ramaswamy allowed Reynolds to ask one of the last questions.

He asked, “How do you expect to get the American people's support behind an invasion of Mexico to take out the cartels when we could in fact just help them succeed financially and bring them out of a deep poverty without the bloodshed of a single American? And how do you expect to gain support for a war like this if you take away our right to vote?”

Ramaswamy answered that the two of them actually share a lot in common.

“First of all, if there's an anti-war current in that question, boy, do we share that in common. I mean, the world we're in right now. Sleepwalking our way into its war in Ukraine that does not advance the U.S. national interest. And there is a bipartisan consensus pushing us further and further into that war," Ramaswamy said. "I'm deeply worried that we are inching closer to a major armed conflict with a nuclear power, possibly World War III ... So there's one presidential candidate who is anti-war and wants to keep us out of World War III. That's me.”

In what could have been a pivotal positive moment between the politician and student, Reynolds said he left disappointed, overwhelmed and flustered by the chaos. He even noted that he plans to vote for Marianne Williamson in the upcoming primary.

ABC News caught up with Reynolds after the town hall where he described Ramaswamy's actions as a public relations stunt.

“It felt like a little bit of a PR stunt. Like my opinions were being trivialized in a way. I appreciated the gesture, but I know that he was just doing it for the camera. And that, yeah, so I'm a bit overwhelmed right now.”

Since the action unfolded, the Ramaswamy campaign has plastered the exchange all over their social media suggesting it was a "good day in New Hampshire."

But Reynolds wasn’t satisfied with Ramaswamy's answer.

“He answered half of my question. But I still think that he has imperialist influence in Mexico, which is not something that this country shied away from. We see it in our trade deals. We see it with NAFTA in the 1990s leading to the uprising in Cuba,” Reynolds explained. “Our Mexican brothers and sisters. Our American brothers and sisters ... do not need to shed blood over this. I think that there are economic resources that we have available in order to not have a conflict here.”

During their banter outside, Ramaswamy mentioned that the two of them shared a lot in common.

Asked if Reynolds shares this sentiment, Reynolds took a somber long pause and put his hand on his heart, “Well, we both have hearts.”

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