色列总理本杰明·内塔尼亚胡再次拒绝了加沙停火的想法，除非人质被释放，他还在接受美国广播公司新闻节目“今晚世界新闻”主持人大卫·穆尔的独家采访时谈到了战后加沙的未来。
美国总统乔·拜登和政府高级官员一直在向以色列施压，要求他们暂时“人道主义”停火，以便更多的援助能够进入加沙，更多的平民能够逃离巴勒斯坦飞地的战火。
据白宫称，拜登和内塔尼亚胡最近在周一讨论了此事，但没有达成明显的协议。国家安全委员会发言人约翰·柯比(John Kirby)表示，政府认为各方正处于“这场对话的开端”
“他们提议的是人道主义暂停，不会有暂停吗?”穆尔在内塔尼亚胡与拜登通话后不久向他施压。
内塔尼亚胡回应道:“如果不释放我们的人质，加沙就不会有停火，全面停火。”。“至于战术上的小停顿，这里一个小时，那里一个小时。我想，我们以前遇到过这种情况，他们会检查情况，以便让货物、人道主义物资进入，或者让我们的人质、个别人质离开。但我认为不会有全面停火。”
内塔尼亚胡继续说道，“我认为这会阻碍战争的努力。这将阻碍我们解救人质的努力，因为对哈马斯的这些罪犯唯一起作用的是我们施加的军事压力。”
穆尔接着问内塔尼亚胡，如果哈马斯同意释放人质，是否会有这样的暂停。据以色列官员称，241人被激进组织扣押。
内塔尼亚胡回应说:“将为此目的停火。”。
据哈马斯控制的加沙卫生部称，长达一个月的冲突已造成加沙1万多人死亡。这个数字包括4 104名儿童。总理办公室称，在以色列，超过1400人死亡，6900人受伤。
加沙未来的控制权?
拜登政府一直在外交上走钢丝，捍卫以色列对哈马斯的自卫权，但也试图减少平民死亡，并展望冲突结束后巴勒斯坦人的前进道路。
穆尔注意到拜登此前表示，以色列占领加沙将是一个“错误”，他问内塔尼亚胡，当战斗结束时，谁应该管理这片领土。
这位总理表示，他相信以色列将“无限期地”发挥作用上个月，以色列国防部长Yoav Gallant表示，was的最后阶段将是断绝“以色列对加沙地带生活的责任”，并建立“以色列公民的新安全现实”。
“那些不想继续哈马斯道路的人，”内塔尼亚胡告诉穆尔。“当然不是——我认为以色列将无限期地承担全面的安全责任，因为我们已经看到了当我们没有安全责任时会发生什么。当我们没有这种安全责任时，我们面临的是哈马斯恐怖活动的爆发，其规模之大是我们无法想象的。”
当被问及拜登政府是否同意或支持内塔尼亚胡的观点时，柯比说，关于加沙未来的讨论正在进行，还没有做出任何决定。
“我们支持的是哈马斯不能再控制加沙，”柯比说。“我们不能回到10月6日。
“我们正在与我们的以色列同行就冲突后加沙的治理应该是什么样子进行对话，我不相信任何解决方案已经以这种或那种方式得到解决，”柯比继续说。“谁来做什么，做多长时间。因此，这是我们正在进行的积极讨论，不仅是与以色列，还包括该地区的其他伙伴，因为很明显，无论它看起来像什么，它都不可能像它过去那样，正如我在10月6日所说的那样。”
Netanyahu to ABC's Muir: 'No cease-fire' without release of hostages
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has once again rejected the idea of a cease-fire in Gaza unless hostages are released, and also addressed Gaza's future after the war in an exclusive interview with ABC News "World News Tonight" anchor David Muir.
President Joe Biden and top administration officials have been pressuring Israel for temporary "humanitarian" pauses in the fighting so more aid can enter Gaza and more civilians can escape the fighting in the Palestinian enclave.
Biden and Netanyahu discussed the matter as recently as Monday, according to the White House, though no apparent agreement was reached. National security council spokesperson John Kirby said the administration considered the parties to be at the "beginning of this conversation."
"What they're proposing is a humanitarian pause, there will be no pause?" Muir pressed Netanyahu, shortly after he had spoken with Biden.
"Well, there'll be no cease-fire, general cease-fire, in Gaza without the release of our hostages," Netanyahu responded. "As far as tactical little pauses, an hour here, an hour there. We've had them before, I suppose, will check the circumstances in order to enable goods, humanitarian goods to come in, or our hostages, individual hostages to leave. But I don't think there's going to be a general cease-fire."
Netanyahu continued, "I think it will hamper the war effort. It'll hamper our effort to get our hostages out because the only thing that works on these criminals in Hamas is the military pressure that we're exerting."
Muir then asked Netanyahu if there would be such a pause if Hamas to agree to the release of hostages. According to Israeli officials, 241 people are being held by the militant group.
"There will be a cease-fire for that purpose," Netanyahu responded.
The month-long conflict has killed more than 10,000 people in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry. That number includes 4,104 children. In Israel, more than 1,400 people have died and 6,900 have been injured, the prime minister's office has said.
Future control of Gaza?
The Biden administration has been walking a diplomatic tightrope as it defends Israel's right to self-defense against Hamas but also tries to reduce civilian deaths and looks ahead to a path forward for Palestinians after the conflict is over.
Muir, noting Biden previously said it would be a "mistake" for Israel to occupy Gaza, asked Netanyahu who should govern the territory when the fighting ends.
The prime minister indicated he believes Israel will have a role to play for an "indefinite period." Last month, Israel Defense Minister Yoav Gallant suggested the final phase of the was would be to sever "Israel's responsibility for life in the Gaza Strip" and establish a "new security reality for the citizens of Israel.”
"Those who don't want to continue the way of Hamas," Netanyahu told Muir. "It certainly is not -- I think Israel will, for an indefinite period will have the overall security responsibility because we've seen what happens when we don't have it. When we don't have that security responsibility, what we have is the eruption of Hamas terror on a scale that we couldn't imagine."
Asked if the Biden administration agrees with or supports Netanyahu's view, Kirby said discussions about Gaza's future are ongoing and nothing has been decided.
"What we support is that Hamas can't be in control of Gaza anymore," Kirby said. "We can't go back to Oct. 6.
"We are having conversations with our Israeli counterparts about what governance in Gaza should look like post-conflict and I don't believe that any solutions have been settled upon one way or the other," Kirby continued. "Who's going to do what and for how long. So, that's an active discussion that we're having with, not only Israel but other partners in the region because clearly whatever it looks like, it can't look like what it did, as I said on the sixth of October."
