前联合国大使、共和党总统候选人妮基·黑利与新罕布什尔州州长克里斯·苏努努坐在一起兜售他对她的支持在接受美国广播公司“本周”节目主持人乔纳森·卡尔的联合采访时。
哈利在周日播出的一次采访中告诉卡尔说:“这很重要，你知道，首先要获得美国最大的保守、热爱自由的基层组织美国人繁荣的支持，然后再获得‘自由生存或死亡’州长的支持。”指对…的支持美国繁荣行动。“我的意思是，没有比这更好的了。”
苏努努本周与海利一起出现在几个竞选站，称赞她是一名候选人，他说他将努力赢得花岗岩州选民的支持，尽管她在这两个方面仍严重落后于领先的唐纳德·特朗普状态和全国民意测验.
“新罕布什尔州没有人会因为州长这么说而投票给妮基·黑利，对吗?这是你应得的，”苏努努说。“我认为我们已经非常成功地知道如何赢得它，如何与选民互动。”
“在接下来的40天里，我们是伙伴，因为我们真诚地相信我们有一个国家要拯救，我们决心这样做，”哈利补充说，在竞选活动中吹捧苏努努的新帮助。
关于特朗普:“你们都想让我要么一直爱他，要么一直恨他。”
尽管得到了支持，而且最近在几个全国性和州级民调中有所上升，但在几周后的初选开始前，哈利有很多理由试图与共和党选民和解。尽管特朗普有争议和法律问题——他否认有不当行为——但他仍然很受基地组织的欢迎。
虽然她加强了对前总统的批评，但海利仍然坚持认为特朗普是“正确时间的正确总统”，他“适合”担任职务。
“看看现在的情况，我们的国家一片混乱。世界着火了，混乱跟着他，”哈利说。“我们不能让一个国家再混乱四年，否则我们将无法生存。”
"但是是混乱跟随他还是他创造了混乱?"卡尔推回了海莉。“我的意思是，这听起来很被动——‘混乱跟着他。’"
“无论对错，你想怎么称呼它就怎么称呼它。但当你感觉到它时，它是混乱的，”哈利回答说。
上周，领导针对特朗普的联邦选举颠覆案的特别顾问要求最高法院介入并决定特朗普的总统豁免权问题。这位前总统的法律团队试图驳回此案，理由是他们声称特朗普对其在担任美国最高职务期间采取的行动享有“绝对豁免权”。特朗普对他的指控不认罪。
"你认为总统对他们在任期间发生的任何事情都有绝对的豁免权吗?"卡尔问道。
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“我会让法庭来解决这个问题。我是说，你看到我做的最后一件事是权衡或了解他的任何法庭案件的细节，因为我不能跟踪91项指控。我不会的，”哈利说。
卡尔反驳道，问海莉是否原则上同意这个问题——总统对在任期间的任何行为都有绝对豁免权。哈利又一次听从了法庭的意见。
“我认为法院的问题是:当你是总统时，当你不是总统时，你有豁免权吗?这条线在哪一点落下?我会让法官来决定，”她说。“特朗普总统无论如何都要为自己辩护。如果他被判有罪，他就被判有罪。如果他被判无罪，他就被判无罪。对我来说，坐在那里专注于法庭案件，而不是专注于如何赢得我们刚刚离开的那个房间(选民)是浪费精力。”
周三，在新罕布什尔州新港的一个市政厅，一名选民要求哈利“转向唐纳德·特朗普”，并“努力追他”卡尔问哈利对那些说她需要在特朗普的立场上画一条更坚定的线的选民说了什么。
“反对特朗普的人希望我恨他，支持特朗普的人希望我爱他，但这是我的立场。有些事情我和总统意见一致。…有些事情我不同意，”哈利说，凸显与特朗普的差异关于他当总统时对中国、芬太尼和国债的处理。
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当卡尔继续追问哈利关于前总统的问题时，哈利试图转移这些问题，说他应该回答这些问题，而不是她。
“你想谈论特朗普，如果你真的想谈论特朗普，为什么不去问他是否会在爱荷华州的辩论台上，爱荷华州的投票站?你为什么不去问他是否会在新罕布什尔州的辩论台上，那里有花岗岩州的选民在投票?”哈利说。
“作为媒体，这是你应该问的，而不是问他今天碰巧说了什么，”她说。
堕胎:“这并不像每个人想的那样千篇一律”
卡尔还试图澄清海利的立场有争议的德州最高法院关于堕胎的裁决上周。法院裁定，31岁的凯特·考克斯不能接受堕胎，尽管她的胎儿被诊断患有几乎总是致命的疾病，医生也说她的健康和未来的生育能力有潜在的危险。
"你同意德克萨斯最高法院的决定吗?"卡尔问道。
“我认为，未经选举的法官不再决定这一点是正确的，这取决于人民，”哈利说，他指的是2022年推翻罗诉韦德案，取消了全国范围内的堕胎保护。“我很欣赏德州在反堕胎方面走得更远。但当我们经历这一切时，听着，我为她心碎，因为我生孩子有困难。”
“各州现在不得不关注这些，因为我们不想看到患有罕见疾病的妇女不得不怀胎到足月，”哈利说。
同样寻求共和党总统候选人提名的前新泽西州长克里斯·克里斯蒂批评了哈利对法庭案件的回应，称这是“文字沙拉”，没有直接回答法庭判决是对还是错。
卡尔注意到克里斯蒂的批评，问哈利:“你现在能直接回答吗?”
哈利说，德克萨斯州最高法院通过解释州法律做出了回应，立法者现在有机会改变它。
“法院必须遵循法律，”她说。“现在轮到德克萨斯州的立法机构说，‘我们如何确保不再有Kates经历这些?’……这并不像每个人希望的那样一成不变，但各州会自我纠正这一点。他们就是这么做的。"
“这是一场绝对的胜利。”
当被问及她是否需要赢得像新罕布什尔州这样的州，才能最终战胜特朗普赢得共和党提名时，哈利说，她的目标是在下个月开始的提前投票州保持“强势”。
“我的目标是在爱荷华州、新罕布什尔州和南卡罗来纳州保持强势，”她说。
“但是，你你需要赢在某个地方吗?对吗?我的意思是-"卡尔挑战前任州长。
“你在说那个。我要说的是，为什么我们不在每个州尽我们所能，让人民来决定事情的走向?”她回应道。
“我想我会在爱荷华州变得强大。我想我会在新罕布什尔州变得强大。她说:“我认为我们将在南卡罗来纳州(2月)变得强大，我认为我们会抓住这个机会，我们不会满足于其他任何事情。
花岗岩州州长预测，尽管民意调查显示，哈利将以“压倒性优势”赢得该州。
“这是一场绝对的胜利。不，这是一个胜利和重置按钮。如果所有能在初选中投票的人都出来投票...她会以压倒性优势获胜，这并不夸张，”苏努努坚持道。
“不，这不是期望，这是人们变得兴奋。”
“我们可以在地面上感受到它，”哈利说，呼应苏努努。“我们要这样做。”
Nikki Haley touts New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu's 'huge' endorsement
Former U.N. ambassador and Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley sat down alongside New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununuto tout his endorsement of herin a joint interview with ABC "This Week" co-anchor Jonathan Karl.
"It's huge, you know, first to have the endorsement of the largest conservative, freedom-loving grassroots organization in the country with Americans for Prosperity and then go get the endorsement of the 'Live Free or Die' governor," Haley told Karl in an interview that aired on Sunday,referring to the backing ofAmericans for Prosperity Action. "I mean, it doesn't get any better than that."
Sununu, who appeared with Haley this week at several campaign stops, sang her praises as a candidate who he said will fight to earn the support of Granite State voters, though she still seriously trails front-runner Donald Trump in bothstateandnational polling.
"No one in New Hampshire is gonna vote for Nikki Haley just because the governor says so right? You earn it," Sununu said. "I think we've been pretty successful in knowing how to earn it, how to engage with constituencies."
"For the next 40 days, we're partners because we honestly believe we have a country to save and we're determined to do it," Haley added, touting Sununu's new help on the campaign trail.
On Trump: 'Y'all want me to either love him or hate him all the time'
Despite the endorsement and a recent increase in several nationwide and statewide polls, Haley has a lot of ground to try and make up with Republican voters before the primary begins in just a few weeks. Trump, despite his controversies and legal troubles -- he denies wrongdoing -- remains very popular with the base.
While she has stepped up her criticism of the former president, Haley still insists that Trump was "the right president at the right time" and that he is "fit" for office.
"Looking at the situation now, our country's in disarray. The world is on fire and chaos follows him," Haley said. "And we can't have a country in chaos for four more years or we won't survive it."
"But is it chaos follows him or does he create the chaos?" Karl pushed back on Haley. "I mean, that sounds so passive -- 'chaos follows him.'"
"Rightly or wrongly, you call it whatever you want to call it. But when you feel it, it's chaos," Haley responded.
Last week, the special counsel leading the federal election subversion case against Trump asked the Supreme Court to step in and decide the issue of Trump's presidential immunity. The former president's legal team has sought to dismiss the case citing what they claim is Trump's "absolute immunity" from prosecution for actions taken while serving in the nation's highest office. Trump has pleaded not guilty to his charges.
"Do you believe a president has absolute immunity for anything that happens while they're president?" Karl asked.
"I'm gonna let the courts figure that out. I mean, the last thing you're gonna see me do is weigh in or learn the details about any of his court cases because I can't follow 91 charges. I'm not going to," Haley said.
Karl pushed back, asking Haley whether she agreed with the issue on principle – that a president has absolute immunity for anything done while in office. Haley again deferred to the courts.
"I think the court issues are: Do you have immunity when you're president, when you're not president? At what point does that line fall? I'm gonna let judges decide that," she said. "President Trump's gonna have to defend himself no matter what. If he's found guilty, he's found guilty. If he's found innocent, he's found innocent. It would be wasted energy for me to sit there and focus on court cases and not focus on how to win that room [of voters] that we just left."
At a town hall on Wednesday in Newport, New Hampshire, a voter challenged Haley to "turn it up on Donald Trump" and "go after him hard." Karl asked what Haley says to those voters who say she needs to draw a firmer line on where she stands on Trump.
"Anti-Trumpers want me to hate him, pro-Trumpers want me to love him, but this is where I stand. There are things I agree with the president on. … There are things I don't agree [with]," Haley said,highlighting differences with Trumpon his handling of China, fentanyl and the national debt when he was president.
When Karl continued to press Haley on the former president, Haley attempted to redirect those questions, saying he should answer them, not her.
"You want to talk about Trump, if you really want to talk about Trump, why don't you go ask him if he's gonna get on a debate stage in Iowa, where Iowa's voting? Why don't you go ask him if he's gonna get on a debate stage in New Hampshire, where Granite Staters are voting?" Haley said.
"That's what you should be asking as the media, not asking about what he happened to say today," she said.
Abortion: 'It's not as cut and dry as everybody wants'
Karl also sought to clarify Haley's position on thecontroversial Texas Supreme Court ruling on abortionlast week. The court ruled that 31-year-old Kate Cox could not receive an abortion, even though her fetus had been diagnosed with a nearly always fatal condition and doctors had said her health and future fertility were potentially in jeopardy.
"Did you agree with that decision by the Texas Supreme Court?" Karl asked.
"I think that it is the right thing that unelected justices no longer decide this and it's in the hands of the people," Haley said, referring to the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022 that removed nationwide abortion access protections. "I appreciate that Texas went more on the pro-life side. But as we go through this, listen, my heart broke for her because I had trouble having my children."
"The states are now going to have to look at these because what we don't want to see is a woman with a rare condition having to carry a baby until term," Haley said.
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who is also seeking the Republican presidential nomination, has criticized Haley for her response on the court case, saying it's a "word salad" without directly answering if the court decision was right or wrong.
Karl noted Christie's criticism, asking Haley, "Can you give a direct answer now?"
Haley said that the Texas Supreme Court responded by interpreting state law, and that lawmakers now have an opportunity to change it.
"The court had to follow the law," she said. "Now it's up to the Legislature in Texas to say, 'How do we make sure there are no more Kates that go through that?' … It's not as cut and dry as everybody wants, but states will self-correct to this. That's what they do."
Sununu on N.H.: 'It's an absolute win.'
Questioned if she needs to win a state like New Hampshire in order to put her in the position for ultimately winning the GOP nomination over Trump, Haley said her goal is to be "strong" in the early voting states beginning next month.
"My goal is to be strong in Iowa, strong in New Hampshire, strong in South Carolina," she said.
"But, you you need to win somewhere? Right? I mean--" Karl challenged the former governor.
"You're saying that. What I'm saying is, why don't we try and do the best we can in every state and let the people decide which way this goes?" she responded.
"I think I'm going to be strong in Iowa. I think I'm going to be strong in New Hampshire. I think we're going to be strong in South Carolina [in February] and I think we're gonna take it and we're not settling for anything else," she said.
The governor of the Granite State stepped in to predict that Haley, despite the polling, will win the state in a "landslide."
"It's an absolute win. No, it's a win and a reset button. If everyone that could vote in the primary comes out and votes ... she's gonna win in a landslide, and that's not an exaggeration," Sununu insisted.
"No, it's not an expectation, it's people getting excited."
"We can feel it on the ground," Haley said, echoing Sununu. "We're going to do this."
