上周，美国总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)在美国-沙特投资论坛上发表讲话，宣扬他的政府为增压所做的努力人工智能在美国。
特朗普表示，他为“结束了荒谬的拜登时代的限制”感到自豪，并发誓要“建立世界上最大、最强大、最具创新性的人工智能生态系统”。
但当特朗普站在那里吹嘘他的政府在人工智能方面的广泛议程时——他此前曾将其描述为“世界历史上最重要的技术革命之一”——他在MAGA基地的一些最忠实的支持者谴责他加速人工智能革命的努力。
在史蒂夫·班农的节目《战争房间》(War Room)中，特朗普的长期盟友卸下了加速人工智能背后的努力，称其可能是“人类历史上最危险的技术”。这是一个有影响力的播客，是MAGA运动的尖端
“我是一个资本家，”班农周三在他的节目中说。“这不是资本主义。这是社团主义和裙带资本主义。”
班农抨击立法者和行业领袖缺乏对人工智能的监管，人工智能是下一代计算机技术，能够进行类似人类的推理和决策，已经在从虚拟助理到自动驾驶汽车的产品中提供。班农将继续奉献本周剩余的节目对有关特朗普正在考虑推翻州法律监管人工智能的行政命令的报道发出警告。
班农告诉他的听众:“你在国会山开办美甲店或编织头发受到更多限制，那么你就拥有了人类历史上最危险的技术。”
“我们面临的最大危机”
多年来，班农是少数几个反对不受约束的人工智能和大型技术的威胁的右翼声音之一，但随着特朗普总统大力推进美国的技术，赋予科技亿万富翁权力，并在未来几年批准该行业的大规模扩张，特朗普MAGA运动中越来越多最具影响力的声音表达了深切的担忧，这可能表明席卷特朗普的广泛联盟内部出现了根本性的裂痕2024年就职。
这种裂痕凸显了目前正在塑造政府人工智能方法的竞争力量的数量，从特朗普2016年竞选负责人班农到他曾经的DOGE领导和最大捐助者埃隆·马斯克，到萨姆·奥特曼这样的人工智能首席执行官，再到特朗普在政府内部确立为自己的人工智能沙皇的大卫·萨克斯。
班农在接受美国广播公司新闻采访时说:“历史会为此而认识我们。”“甚至超过特朗普的年龄，(马加基地)将因此而闻名。所以我们必须把它做好。”
对于像班农这样的声音来说，正在酝酿的人工智能之战将是一场政治斗争，不仅决定了MAGA基地的前进，还可能决定2026年中期选举、2028年总统选举以及未来。
问题的一面是科技亿万富翁和硅谷高管，他们为特朗普的竞选注入了数百万美元，其中一些人现在在他的政府内外占据了有影响力的职位，并继续推动在最少监管的情况下快速发展人工智能，经常强调需要维护国家安全和经济竞争力，并在所谓的人工智能竞赛中击败中国。“我们必须抓住这个机会，提高生产率，”萨克斯在6月份的一次白宫活动上说，他说人工智能技术将促进整个经济的创新。“我们的工人需要知道如何使用人工智能，并在这方面发挥创造力。”
另一方面，流行杂志的声音越来越多地敲响了警钟，他们担心人工智能技术将消除就业机会，重塑美国社会。
“人工智能可能是我们作为一个物种目前面临的最大危机，但它根本没有得到任何紧急处理，”迈特·沃尔什每日电讯的流行保守播客上周在X上的一篇帖子中说。"我们只是在梦游中走进了我们的反乌托邦未来。"
塔克·卡尔森在10月发布了一个近2小时的播客，批判性地看待人工智能的兴起，将其与神秘学进行比较，并讨论人工智能如何导致“野兽的标记”，这是《启示录》中圣经诗句的参考。
密苏里州共和党参议员乔希·霍利(Josh Hawley)和田纳西州共和党参议员玛莎·布莱克本(Marsha Blackburn)已经成为知名的民选官员，对人工智能发出了警告，提出了立法，限制人工智能在影响美国人生活的关键决策中的使用，从贷款审批到医疗诊断。霍利认为，如果没有积极的干预，人工智能将把权力集中在少数科技公司手中，同时大幅削减工人阶级。
科技公司对工人阶级
一些总统最忠实的支持者越来越多地将人工智能视为财富和控制权向马斯克、马克·扎克伯格和彼得·泰尔等科技巨头的全面转移，这些人引起了总统大部分支持者的愤怒。从班农在实地观察到的情况来看，MAGA基地越来越担心这个国家走向人工智能接管，右翼越来越担心劳动者失去工作，以及缺乏适当的监管或改革来保护这些工人。
一些专家预测，人工智能将重塑美国经济的很大一部分，尤其是随着最近的大学毕业生进入就业市场，对入门级工作产生影响。Anthropic的首席执行官达里奥·阿莫代伊(Dario Amodei)创建了一个名为克劳德的人工智能模型，他在今年早些时候告诉Axios，技术可能会在五年内将美国的入门级工作岗位减少一半。
“技术正在不受监管的情况下发展，”班农说，并预测即将到来的“就业启示录”将伤害劳动人民，他指出，其中许多人是特朗普的支持者。
这种情绪在MAGA基地根深蒂固。据班农估计，绝大多数普通特朗普支持者已经开始厌恶人工智能背后的推动，对缺乏监管以及人工智能科技公司和首席执行官与总统建立的密切关系提出质疑。
班农认为，“在MAGA，对这些技术公司的厌恶比激进左翼更深，因为他们意识到激进左翼没有那么强大。”
“[MAGA base]看到所有这些试图压制自己声音的技术寡头了吗...然后突然成了总统的新朋友。他们就是不买账，”班农说。
他告诉美国广播公司新闻(ABC News)，这位作战室主持人计划在未来几个月和几年内将打击人工智能作为他的主要关注点，并正在努力建立一个自下而上的右翼联盟，及时挑战人工智能的激增，以挽救他的运动，不仅是他所说的最终会削弱美国工人阶级的工作，而且是试图保留总统在2024年建立的支持基础。
班农说:“我会加倍关注这件事。”。“我们将加速解决这个问题。这是摆在我们面前的问题。”
T这就是我们要领导抵抗的地方
班农在未来几年承担人工智能任务的一个关键人物是乔·阿伦，他的节目的常驻人工智能专家，他经常向作战室观众发表尖锐的批评，班农说，这些观众已经成为最受欢迎的部分。
班农没有在智库或国会山找到艾伦作为他反对人工智能的MAGA十字军——而是在一个音乐会上。
艾伦的正式头衔是作战室的“超人类主义编辑”，他以前是一名巡回索具师，整天为从Rascal Flatts到黑眼豆豆的音乐表演吊装大量的灯光和扬声器，计算重量负荷，固定扬声器阵列，然后将其分解，前往下一个城市。晚上，他致力于对人工智能和超人类主义的深入研究，在《联邦党人》(Federalist)等保守派刊物上发表他的著作。
2021年，班农在偶然发现艾伦的作品后联系了他，并邀请他参加他的节目，随后迅速向他提供了该节目人工智能专家的永久角色。
从那以后，在班农的帮助下，艾伦在2023年出版了一本名为《黑暗永世:超人类主义和反人类战争》的批判超智能的书，并成为右翼的新兴声音，为人工智能敲响了警钟。
班农变得如此依赖艾伦的工作，以至于今年早些时候，他坚持要将他全职调到华盛顿特区，让他在班农所谓的“大使馆”作为运营基地工作。
“我不能让你在诺克斯维尔或蒙大拿，”班农说，他告诉艾伦。“这就是事情发生的地方，这就是我们要领导抵抗的地方。”
虽然班农经常在经济和政治方面框架他对人工智能的反对，艾伦的批评有时更侧重于哲学和精神。他认为，人工智能不仅仅是一种会导致工作置换的工具，而是一种会重塑人类自身的力量——在智力上、社会上，或许最重要的是在他的思想上，以威胁灵魂的方式。
艾伦在接受美国广播公司采访时表示:“人们正在接受训练，以将人工智能视为关于什么是真实的，什么不是真实的权威来源。”。“在每一种情况下，你都有狂热的领导者，他们劝告他们的追随者为了外星智慧而消灭自己。和(天堂之门)一样的能量，”他说，把这种推动比作致命的崇拜。
艾伦对他所谓的“逆奇点”提出了警告，在未来，随着人们越来越依赖于“决定什么是真实的，什么不是真实的”机器，人类的智能将会崩溃。他谈到了一个即将到来的“超人类主义”未来，他觉得埃隆·马斯克和其他科技巨头希望通过人类与“机器”的融合来实现这一未来，他认为这是“反人类”的，威胁到人类的生存。
马斯克等领导人物最近表示，他相信有一天人类能够将他们的意识上传到他的人工智能机器人Optimus中，他们明确表示，他们认为这项技术正在朝着这个方向发展。
“从长远来看，坦率地说，将由人工智能负责，而不是人类。因此，我们需要确保它是友好的，”马斯克在最近的一次特斯拉全体会议上说，他自己有时也警告过人工智能的危险。
为了传播这一警告，艾伦在旅途中传递了他的信息，在全国各地的教堂、保守派会议和MAGA集会上发表演讲，努力让普通美国人相信人工智能技术的危险
班农认为艾伦是他的使命的关键力量，他的使命是从根本上激励MAGA基地，传播关于人工智能和大技术的警告，并在全国各地的基层声音中建立足够的支持，以挑战人工智能的推动。
“他会尽可能参加各种会议，会见各种人...我告诉他，我要你去每一个问你的教堂。我想让你去教堂。我要你去参加杂志，茶话会。班农说:“我想让基地在底层参与进来。“我希望他们获得所有权。随着特朗普总统的回归，他们在2021年接管了所有权。如果他们控制了这里，我们就不会被打败。”
“这是他们的战斗，我们赢得这场战斗的唯一方法是与他们合作，”他说。
挑战国会
也许这场运动迄今为止最大的胜利是在今年夏天，当时包括班农、迈克·戴维斯(Mike Davis)和其他人在内的一个叛乱团队公开和幕后努力，阻止将州级人工智能监管的拟议10年暂停纳入特朗普总统的主要立法一揽子计划，即“一个美丽的大法案”。
与此同时，一些人工智能产品背后的大型科技巨头已经开始注意到这一点，并开始私下接触MAGA world中有影响力的声音，试图消除反人工智能的情绪，消息人士告诉ABC新闻。
但是右翼的反艾运动面临着强大的阻力。特朗普政府仍然致力于在全国范围内加快人工智能项目，总统最亲密的技术顾问-班农和他的盟友正在与之斗争的人-在政府中占据一席之地，并拥有他的影响力。
其中最主要的是萨克斯，风险投资家和播客，他既是特朗普的加密专家，也是人工智能沙皇。萨克斯已经成为政府中对技术政策最有影响力的声音之一，他认为美国在人工智能领域的主导地位对国家安全和经济竞争力至关重要，特别是在击败中国方面。
萨克斯将美国对人工智能统治地位的追求与美国将人类送上月球的太空竞赛相提并论，认为人工智能竞赛“甚至更重要”
在特朗普7月份在人工智能峰会上发表演讲后的一次采访中，萨克斯说:“我认为这是自肯尼迪总统宣布我们必须赢得太空竞赛以来，美国总统发表的最重要的技术演讲。”
萨克斯和特朗普轨道上的其他科技领袖以鲜明的措辞框定了这场辩论:要么美国在人工智能发展方面快速前进，要么中国将主导塑造未来的技术。
萨克斯说:“如果美国在人工智能领域领先，继续领先，我们将会是，我们将仍然是最强大的国家，但如果我们不这样做，我们可能会落后于中国等全球竞争对手，我认为特朗普总统制定了赢得这场人工智能竞赛的计划。”
但对于像班农这样的MAGA运动的声音来说，萨克斯是人工智能推动的一切错误的化身。班农告诉美国广播公司新闻，萨克斯是最能言善辩的-而且因此“最危险”-他称之为“加速主义者”的发言人，这是推动人工智能快速、无管制发展的大型技术声音。
几周前，艾伦说他做了一场他觉得“灾难性”的演讲。他说，他可以感觉到他的信息没有联系起来——当他发表他的神学和分析批评，警告正在出现的人工智能瘟疫时，许多学生的脸在手机的灯光下发光。
“即使在我讨论的时候，嘿，一个大问题是你被你的设备催眠了...几个人带着探询的目光从手机上抬起头来，”他回忆道。
但是他说当他收拾东西的时候，一个一名学生走向他，完成了整个旅程值得。
艾伦说，她告诉他她同意他的大部分观点——她觉得她作为学生的成长被扼杀了，因为她周围的每个人，她的所有同学，越来越依赖人工智能来写论文和完成项目。
“如果我是那种过去总是成功的学生，而作弊的人将会获得成功，我该如何竞争?”艾伦说她问过他。
艾伦说他不能否认这是一个棘手的问题。她是正确的。“在短期内，这些骗子中的许多人将在数字水平上超过你，”艾伦说他告诉她。
“但是，”艾伦说，“从长远来看，通过学习和用自己的灵魂创造，你会成为一个有深度的人——你会赢的。也许短期内经济上不会，但你会赢的。”
Inside MAGA's growing fight to stop Trump's AI revolution
Last week, President Donald Trump took the stage at the United States-Saudi Investment Forum, where he touted his administration's efforts to superchargeartificial intelligencein the United States.
Trump said he was proud to have "ended the ridiculous Biden-era restrictions" and vowed to "build the largest, most powerful, most innovative AI ecosystem in the world."
But as Trump stood there boasting of his administration's extensive agenda for AI -- which he has previously described as "one of the most important technological revolutions in the history of the world" -- some of his most loyal supporters within the MAGA base were denouncing his effort to accelerate the AI revolution.
Over on Steve Bannon's show, War Room -- the influential podcast that's emerged as the tip of the spear of the MAGA movement -- Trump's longtime ally unloaded on the efforts behind accelerating AI, calling it likely "the most dangerous technology in the history of mankind."
"I'm a capitalist," Bannon said on his show Wednesday. "This is not capitalism. This is corporatism and crony capitalism."
Bannon blasted legislators and industry leaders over the lack of regulation regarding AI, the next-generation computer technology capable of performing human-like reasoning and decision-making that's already available in offerings ranging from virtual assistants to self-driving cars. Bannon would go on to dedicate the rest of the week's showsto sounding the alarm over reports that Trump was considering an executive order that would overrule state laws regulating AI.
"You have more restrictions on starting a nail salon on Capitol Hill or to have your hair braided, then you have on the most dangerous technologies in the history of mankind," Bannon told his listeners.
'The greatest crisis we face'
For years Bannon was one of the few voices on the right railing against the perceived threat of unchecked artificial intelligence and big tech -- but as President Trump barrels toward supercharging the technology in the United States, empowering tech billionaires and signing off on a massive expansion of the industry in the coming years, a growing list of some of the most influential voices in Trump's MAGA movement are voicing deep concerns in what could indicate a fundamental fracture within the broad coalition that swept Trumpinto office in 2024.
The rift underscores the sheer number of competing forces now working to shape the administration's approach to AI, from Bannon, who was Trump's 2016 campaign chief, to Elon Musk, his one-time DOGE lead and top donor, to AI CEOs like Sam Altman, to David Sacks, who Trump has established as his own AI czar inside the administration.
"History will know us for this," Bannon said in an interview with ABC News. "Even more than the age of Trump, [the MAGA base] will be known for this. So we've got to get it right."
For voices like Bannon, the brewing battle over AI will be the political fight that defines not only the MAGA base moving forward, but potentially shapes the 2026 midterms, the 2028 presidential election, and beyond.
On one side of the issue stand the tech billionaires and Silicon Valley executives who poured millions into Trump's campaign, some of whom now occupy influential positions in his administration and out, and have continued to push for rapid AI development with minimal regulation, often stressing the need to maintain national security and economic competitiveness and to beat China in the so-called AI race. "We have to embrace that opportunity, to be more productive," Sacks argued at a White House event in June were he said AI technology would promote innovation across the economy. "Our workers need to know how to use AI and be creative with it."
On the other side stand popular MAGA voices who are increasingly sounding the alarm on their concern that AI technology will eliminate jobs and reshape American society.
"AI is probably the greatest crisis we face as a species right now but it isn't being addressed with any urgency at all," popular conservative podcaster for Daily Wire Matt Walsh said in a post on X last week. "We're just sleepwalking into our dystopian future."
Tucker Carlson in October released a nearly 2-hour podcast that critically looked at the rise of AI, comparing it to occult and discussed how AI could lead to the "mark of the beast," a reference to Bible verses in the book of Revelation.
Sens. Josh Hawley, a Missouri Republican, and Marsha Blackburn, a Republican from Tennessee, have emerged as prominent elected officials sounding alarms about AI, introducing legislation to restrict AI's use in critical decisions affecting Americans' lives, from loan approvals to medical diagnoses. Hawley argues that without aggressive intervention, AI will concentrate power in the hands of a few tech companies while decimating the working class.
'Tech bros' vs. the working class
Some of the president's most loyal supporters are increasingly seeing artificial intelligence as a sweeping transfer of wealth and control to tech titans like Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and Peter Thiel, who have drawn the ire of large parts of the president's base. From what Bannon has observed on the ground level, the MAGA base has grown more and more concerned about the country marching toward an AI takeover, with fears mounting on the right about working people losing their jobs, and the lack of proper regulation or reforms in place to protect those workers.
Some experts have predicted AI will reshape large swaths of the American economy, particularly impacting entry-level work as recent college graduates enter the job market. Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic, which created an AI model called Claude, told Axios earlier this year that technology could cut U.S. entry-level jobs by half within five years.
"The technology is advancing without regulation," Bannon said, predicting a coming "jobs apocalypse" that would hurt working people, many of which, he points out, are Trump supporters.
The sentiment runs deep in the MAGA base. By Bannon's estimate, an overwhelming majority among rank-and-file Trump supporters has grown to loathe the push behind AI, taking issue with the lack of regulations and the close relationship AI tech companies and CEOs have built with the president.
There is, Bannon argues, "a deeper loathing in MAGA for these tech bros than there is for the radical left, because they realize that radical left is not that powerful."
"[The MAGA base] see all these tech oligarchs that tried to suppress their voices ... and then all of a sudden being the President's new best friends. They just don't buy it," Bannon said.
The War Room host plans to make combating AI his main focus in the coming months and years ahead, he told ABC News, and is working to build a coalition on the right, from the bottom up, to challenge the surge of artificial intelligence in time to save his movement, from not only the jobs he says will ultimately cripple the working-class American, but to try and retain the base of support the president built in 2024.
"I will get 100 times more focused on this," Bannon said. "We are going to turbo-charge this issue. This is the issue before us."
'This is where we're going to lead the resistance'
A key player in Bannon's mission to take on AI in the coming years is Joe Allen, his show's resident AI expert, who regularly appears to deliver searing rebukes to the War Room audience, which Bannon says have become some of the most popular segments.
Bannon didn't find Allen as his MAGA crusader against artificial intelligence at a think tank or on Capitol Hill -- but instead at a concert venue.
Allen, whose official title is "transhumanist editor" for the War Room, previously worked as a touring rigger, spending his days hoisting massive light and speaker setups for musical acts ranging from Rascal Flatts to the Black Eyed Peas, calculating weight loads, securing speaker arrays, then breaking it all down to head to the next city. At night, he was devoted to deep research into AI and transhumanism, publishing his writings in conservative outlets like the Federalist.
In 2021, Bannon reached out to Allen after coming across his work, and invited him on his show before quickly offering him a permanent role as the show's AI expert.
Since then, with help from Bannon, Allen has published a book in 2023 critiquing superintelligence titled "Dark Aeon: Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity" and has become an emerging voice on the right sounding the alarm against AI.
Bannon grew so reliant on Allen's work that earlier this year he insisted he relocate to Washington, D.C., full-time, having him work out of Bannon's so-called "Embassy" as a base of operations.
"I can't have you in Knoxville or out in Montana," Bannon said he told Allen. "This is where it's happening, and this is where we're going to lead the resistance."
While Bannon often frames his opposition to AI in economic and political terms, Allen's critique at times focuses more toward the philosophical and spiritual. He argues that AI is not merely a tool that will lead to job displacement, but sees it as a force that will reshape humanity itself -- intellectually, socially, and perhaps most importantly in his mind, in ways that threaten the soul.
"People are being trained to see AI as the source of authority on what is and isn't real," Allen told ABC News in an interview. "In every case, you have zealous leaders who are counseling their followers to eliminate themselves for the sake of an alien intelligence. Same energy as [Heaven's Gate]," he said, comparing the push to the deadly cult.
Allen warns of what he calls the "inverse singularity," a future where human intelligence collapses as people grow dependent on machines that "decide what is and isn't real." He speaks about a coming "transhumanism" future that he feels the likes of Elon Musk and other tech titans are looking to bring about with the merging of humans with "the Machine," which he sees as "anti-human" and threatens humanity's existence.
And leading voices like Musk, who recently said he believed one day humans would be able to upload their consciousness into his AI powered Optimus robot, have made clear they see the technology is heading in that direction.
"Long term, the Al's going to be in charge, to be totally frank, not humans. So we need to make sure it's friendly," Musk, who himself has at times has warned of the perils of AI, said at a recent Tesla all-hands event.
To spread the warning, Allen has taken his message on the road, traveling the country giving lectures at churches, conservative conferences, and MAGA gatherings, working to convince everyday Americans of the dangers of AI technology
Bannon sees Allen as a key force in his mission to galvanize the MAGA base from the ground up, to spread the warning about AI and big tech and to build enough support among the grassroots voices around the country to challenge the AI push.
"He's going to every conference possible, meeting people ... and I told him, I want you to go to every church that asks you. I want you to go to churches. I want you to go to MAGA, Tea Party meetings. I want to get the base in the loop on this at the ground floor," Bannon said. "And I want them to take ownership. They took ownership in 2021 with President Trump's comeback. If they take ownership here, we literally can't be beaten."
"It's their fight, and the only way we win this is with them," he said.
Taking on Congress
Perhaps the movement's biggest win yet was over the summer when an insurgent team including Bannon, Mike Davis, and others worked publicly and behind the scenes to kill the inclusion of a proposed 10-year moratorium on state-level AI regulation as part of President Trump's major legislative package known as the "One Big Beautiful Bill."
Meanwhile, some of the large tech giants behind AI products have started to take notice and have begun reaching out privately to influential voices in MAGA world to try and smooth out the anti-AI sentiment, sources tell ABC News.
But the anti-AI movement on the right faces formidable opposition. The Trump administration remains committed to accelerating AI projects nationwide, and the president's closest advisers on technology -- the very people Bannon and his allies are fighting against -- hold positions in the administration and have his ear.
Chief among them is Sacks, the venture capitalist and podcaster who serves as both Trump's crypto and AI czar. Sacks has become one of the most influential voices in the administration on technology policy, arguing that American dominance in AI is essential to national security and economic competitiveness, particularly when it comes to beating China.
Sacks has compared the United States' pursuit of AI domination to the space race that saw the United States land a man on the moon -- arguing the AI race is "even more important."
In an interview following Trump's address at AI summit in July, Sacks said, "I think it was the most important technology speech by an American president since President Kennedy declared that we had to win the space race."
Sacks and other tech leaders in Trump's orbit frame the debate in stark terms: Either America moves fast on AI development, or China will dominate the technology that shapes the future.
"If the U.S. leads, continues to lead in AI, we will be, we'll remain the most powerful country, but if we don't, we could fall behind our global competitors like China, and I think President Trump laid out a plan for winning this AI race," Sacks said.
But to voices in the MAGA movement like Bannon, Sacks is the embodiment of everything wrong with the AI push. Bannon told ABC News that Sacks is the most articulate -- andtherefore "most dangerous"-- spokesman for what he calls the "accelerationists," big tech voices pushing rapid, unregulated advancement of artificial intelligence.
A few weeks ago, Allen said he gave a lecture that he felt had gone "disastrously." He said he could feel his message failing to connect -- that as he delivered his theological and analytical critiques warning of the emerging AI plague, many of the students' faces were glowing with the light of their phones.
"Even while I'm discussing, hey, one of the big problems is that you're hypnotized by your devices ... a couple of people looked up from their phones with a quizzical look," he recalled.
But he said that as he was packing up his things, onestudent walked up to him and made the whole tripworth it.
Allen said she told him she agreed with much of what he had -- and she felt her growth as a student was being stifled as everyone around her, all her classmates, relied more and more on AI to write their papers and complete their projects.
"How am I supposed to compete if I am being the kind of student that has always succeeded in the past, and people cheating are going to get ahead?" Allen said she asked him.
Allen said he couldn't deny it was a tough question.She was correct. "In the near term, many of these cheaters will outperform you on a numerical level," Allen said he told her.
"But," Allen said, "long term, the depth of character and the type of human being you become from studying and creating from your own soul -- you're going to win. Maybe not economically in the near term, but you're going to win."
