亚利桑那州参议员马克·凯利周二在“吉米·基梅尔直播”(Jimmy Kimmel Live)节目中抨击国防部长皮特·海格塞斯(Pete Hegseth),称他不合格,并说他只想取悦唐纳德·特朗普总统。
这些评论是在海格塞斯之后发表的要求海军部长审查根据五角大楼在社交媒体上发布的备忘录,凯利在一段视频中对部队的评论是“潜在的非法行为”。
这位亚利桑那州参议员是上周在一段视频中出现的六名民主党人之一,该视频向军人讲述了他们的经历不必服从非法命令.
“对我们宪法的威胁不仅仅来自国外,还来自国内。我们的法律很清楚。你可以拒绝非法命令,”该组织表示。"没有人必须执行违反法律或宪法的命令."
该视频引发了一场轩然大波,唐纳德·特朗普总统指责立法者煽动叛乱,并表示他们应该承担后果。在X上的帖子中,Hegseth抨击凯利涉嫌“不当行为的严重指控”,并威胁要接受军事法庭审判,称该视频是“出于政治动机的影响行动”。
美国国防部周一表示,的确如此对凯利进行“彻底审查”,引用“不当行为的严重指控。”
与此同时,凯利告诉基梅尔,总统和他的政府的反应播下了恐惧的种子,称之为“民主如何死亡”的一个例子
“这完全不符合剧本,你知道,威权主义的剧本。他们就是这么做的。他们试图压制言论,”凯利说。“我们每个人都有第一修正案的言论权利,我认为总统侵犯了这些权利,他发出了非常强烈的信息。你不想得罪他,你应该对他忠诚。不应该。它应该永远是宪法。”
凯利说,海格塞思“完全不合格”这份工作,“他只是想取悦总统。”
“他可以根据军事司法统一法典来起诉我,这是军队中的法律,有点疯狂,因为我们背诵了军事司法统一法典中的一些内容,他将根据军事司法统一法典起诉我,”凯利说。"这太可笑了,就好像你做不出这个s - up一样."
凯利还告诉基梅尔,他是如何发现特朗普第一次用帖子对视频做出反应的,详细说明他当时和密歇根州参议员埃利萨·斯洛特金在一起,当时一名工作人员打断了他们的简报,并递给她一张纸。
“所以有人在我们的简报中进来,塞了一张纸,我看了看这张纸,上面写着,‘总统要求处决你’——对她,对艾丽莎,所以她,她看着我,她站起来,走了出去,”凯利说。“大约五分钟后,她回来了,看着我说,‘好吧,他也要求处决你。’所以我没有逃脱责任。"
Hegseth本周早些时候抨击了这位亚利桑那州参议员,指责他没有正确佩戴他的军功章。
“所以‘凯利队长’不仅你的煽动视频故意破坏良好秩序&纪律,学科...但你甚至不能正确展示你的制服,”海格塞斯周二在X上分享的一篇帖子中说。
赫格塞斯的帖子是对凯利周一关于五角大楼所谓审查的声明的回应,其中包括一张他的军事奖章的照片。
“你的奖章坏了&行颠倒。当/如果你被召回现役,这将从统一检查开始,”海格塞斯补充道。
“军方已经有了处理非法命令的明确程序。它不需要政治行动者向已经清晰的指挥链注入怀疑,”海格塞斯周二表示。
所有服役20年后退役的军官都可以被召回现役,如果确定他们有不当行为,他们将受到军事起诉,可能是军事法庭。
凯利在海军和美国国家航空航天局服役了25年,于2011年退役。
国防部引用的代码可能会使凯利受到“行政措施”,这可能包括降低军衔和减少他的退休金。
凯利说:“这不是我们的民主运作的方式,我们不能走下坡路。”。
Sen. Kelly says Pete Hegseth 'totally unqualified' after being bashed over display of medals
Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., blasted Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth in an appearance on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" Tuesday, calling him unqualified and saying he just wants to please President Donald Trump.
The comments came after Hegsethasked the Navy secretary to reviewKelly's comments in a video to troops for "potentially unlawful conduct," according to a memo posted on social media by the Pentagon.
The Arizona senator was one of six Democrats featured in a video last week addressed to military members telling them theydon't have to follow illegal orders.
"The threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here right at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders," the group said. "No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution."
The video sparked a firestorm, with President Donald Trump accusing the lawmakers of sedition and saying they should face consequences. In postings on X, Hegseth blasted Kelly for alleged "serious allegations of misconduct" and threatened with a court-martial, calling the video "a politically motivated influence operation."
The Department of Defense on Monday said it islaunching a "thorough review" into Kelly, citing "serious allegations of misconduct."
Meanwhile, Kelly told Kimmel that the president and his administration's reaction sows fear, calling it an example of "how democracies die."
"It is right out of the playbook, you know, the playbook of authoritarianism. That's what they do. They try to suppress speech," Kelly said. "Every one of us has First Amendment speech rights, and I think the president is infringing on those and he is sending, he is sending a pretty strong message. You do not want to cross him, and your loyalty should be to him. It should not. It should always be to the Constitution."
Kelly said that Hegseth is "totally unqualified" for the job and that "he just wants to please the president."
"He can go after me under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is law in the military, which is kind of wild, because we recited something in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and he's going to prosecute me under the Uniform Code of Military Justice," Kelly said. "It is so ridiculous, it's almost like you can't make this s--- up."
Kelly also told Kimmel how he found out that Trump first reacted to the video with the post, detailing that he was with Sen. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich., when a staffer interrupted their briefing and slid her a piece of paper.
"So somebody comes in in the middle of our brief, slips her piece of paper and I take a look at the piece of paper, and it says, 'The president is calling for your execution' -- to her, to Elissa, so she, she looks at me, she gets up, she walks out," Kelly said. "About five minutes later, she comes back in, looks at me and says, 'Well, he's calling for your execution too.' So I wasn't off the hook."
Hegseth bashed the Arizona senator earlier this week, accusing him of incorrectly wearing his military medals.
"So 'Captain' Kelly, not only did your sedition video intentionally undercut good order&discipline...but you can't even display your uniform properly," Hegseth said in a post shared on X on Tuesday.
Hegseth's post was in response to Kelly's statement on Monday regarding the Pentagon's alleged review, which included a photo of his military medals.
"Your medals are out of order&rows reversed. When/if you are recalled to active duty, it'll start with a uniform inspection," Hegseth added.
"The military already has clear procedures for handling unlawful orders. It does not need political actors injecting doubt into an already clear chain of command," Hegseth said on Tuesday.
All military officers who have retired after 20 years of service are able to be recalled to active duty, and if they are determined to have engaged in misconduct, they are subject to military prosecution -- potentially a court-martial.
Kelly served for 25 years in the Navy and at NASA, retiring in 2011.
The code referenced by the Defense Department could subject Kelly to an "administrative measure," which could include a reduction in rank -- and a reduction in his pension entitlement.
"That is not how our democracy works, and we cannot go down that slippery slope," said Kelly.





