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水牛枪击事件后佩洛西呼吁言论自由和安全之间的“平衡”

2022-05-16 13:59  -ABC   - 

众议院议长南希·佩洛西周日表示,社交媒体公司必须解决和追查他们平台上的极端主义,此前据报道,一名支持白人至上主义意识形态的枪手周六在纽约布法罗超市开枪,造成至少10人死亡。

当局称,在被枪杀的13名受害者中,11名是黑人,两名是白人。

“必须保持警惕,”来自加州的佩洛西告诉美国广播公司“本周”节目主持人乔治·斯特凡诺普洛斯。“如果人们认为有人正在走向国内恐怖主义或任何形式的暴力,他们必须提醒其他当局。”

消息人士告诉ABC新闻,调查人员正在调查可能与18岁的枪手佩顿·詹德伦有关的多个在线帖子,其中包括对南卡罗来纳州教堂枪手迪伦·鲁夫和新西兰清真寺枪手布伦顿·塔兰特的赞扬。

佩洛西说:“显然,你必须平衡言论自由问题。”“自由对我们来说非常重要,但自由也伴随着公共安全,我们必须平衡这一点。”

“当许多分析家认为我们最大的国家安全威胁是国内恐怖主义时,你想过自己会成为众议院议长吗?”斯特凡诺普洛斯问道。

佩洛西回答说:“统计数据已经向我们表明,国内恐怖主义和暴力的威胁比影响我们家园的国际、全球恐怖主义更大。”

这位加州民主党人表示,她在国会的政党“当然在努力解决枪支暴力问题”,但指出,解决国会山大规模枪击事件的努力在参议院没有达到要求,共和党人反对枪支管制措施,这使得民主党人不可能在众议院推动超过60票门槛的立法。

在美国人努力应对创纪录的通胀水平之际,斯特凡诺普洛斯向佩洛西施压,询问民主党人是否会在11月份付出政治代价,以及如何解决这个问题。

“这肯定会对即将进入中期选举的民主党人不利,”他说。"从现在到11月,你能做些什么来降低价格吗?"

佩洛西指出,众议院推出的立法“将解决供应链问题。”

“让美国独立和自给自足非常重要,这样我们就不会那么依赖来自海外的产品,不管是因为COVID还是其他什么原因。但也因为没有共同的价值观,”她说,并指出该法案包括520亿美元的芯片和超过400亿美元的“供应链问题”

佩洛西还表示,她计划本周将立法提交议会,以解决能源公司潜在的“市场操纵”,认为国会需要调查潜在的价格欺诈,并“在公司如何以牺牲消费者为代价获取高额利润方面保持透明。”

斯特凡诺普洛斯就全国婴儿配方奶粉短缺问题向佩洛西施压。众议院共和党第三号人物埃利斯·斯特凡尼克(Elise Stefanik)在推特上说:“在美国家庭面临空货架的时候,乔·拜登继续把美国放在最后,他把婴儿配方奶粉运到南部边境。这是不可接受的。”

根据Flores协议,海关和边境保护局有法律义务提供标准的照顾,该协议源于对现已解散的移民和归化局提起的诉讼。1997年由克林顿司法部谈判达成的协议明确指出,“设施将提供厕所和水槽、饮用水和适当的食物,”以及其他要求。

佩洛西称斯特凡尼克的声明“完全不负责任”。她说,民主党人已经安排了多次听证会,国会“必须尽快采取行动,但要尽可能安全”,并指出民主党人正在努力批准新的资金,以加快从其他国家进口配方奶粉。

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佩洛西还承认,众议院1月6日特别委员会向五名现任国会共和党成员发出传票,迫使他们作证,这是前所未有的,但没有说众议院是否会投票让他们蔑视国会的任何蔑视。

“我知道你让委员会敬而远之,但如果领袖麦卡锡和其他共和党人坚持,众议院会投票蔑视他们吗?”斯特凡诺普洛斯问道。

佩洛西回答说:“委员会将一步一步来,但我为委员会感到骄傲。”。

“人们会对我说,‘这是前所未有的。’是的,对美国总统来说,在国会大厦煽动叛乱是史无前例的。

Pelosi calls for 'balance' between free speech and safety after Buffalo shooting

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Sunday that social media companies have to address and track down extremism on their platforms, after a gunman who reportedly espoused white supremacist ideology opened fire at a Buffalo, New York, supermarket on Saturday, killing at least 10.

Among the 13 victims shot, 11 were Black and two were white, authorities said.

"There has to be vigilance," Pelosi, D-Calif., told ABC "This Week" anchor George Stephanopoulos. "People have to alert other authorities if they think that someone is on a path to domestic terrorism, to violence of any kind."

Investigators are looking at multiple online postings that may be associated with the shooter, 18-year-old Payton Gendron, that include praise for South Carolina church shooter Dylann Roof and the New Zealand mosque shooter Brenton Tarrant, sources told ABC News.

"Obviously you have to balance the free speech issues," Pelosi said. "Freedom is so important to us but that freedom also carries public safety with it and we have to balance that."

"Did you ever think you would be Speaker of the House, when our greatest national security threat, according to so many analysts, is domestic terror?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"The statistics have been showing us there's more of a threat of domestic terrorism and violence than international, global terrorism affecting our homeland," Pelosi replied.

The California Democrat said her party in Congress is "of course trying to do something about gun violence" but noted that efforts to address mass shootings on Capitol Hill have fallen short in the Senate, where Republicans have opposed gun control measures, making it impossible for Democrats to advance legislation over the 60-vote threshold in the chamber.

As Americans grapple with record levels of inflation, Stephanopoulos pressed Pelosi on whether Democrats will pay a political price come November and what can be done to address the issue.

"It's certainly going to be working against Democrats heading into the midterms," he said. "Is there anything you can do between now and November to bring prices down?"

Pelosi noted the House introduction of legislation that "will address supply chain."

"It's very important to make America independent and self-sufficient so that we're not as dependent on product coming from overseas, whether it's because of COVID or whatever else. But also because of not having shared values," she said, noting that the bill includes $52 billion for chips and more than $40 billion "for supply chain concerns specifically."

Pelosi also said she plans to bring legislation to the floor this week to address potential "market manipulation" by energy companies, arguing Congress needs to investigate potential price gouging and "have a bright light of transparency on how companies are making big profits at the expense … of the consumer."

Stephanopoulos pressed Pelosi on the nationwide shortage in baby formula. Rep. Elise Stefanik, the third-ranking Republican in the House, tweeted, "Joe Biden continues to put America LAST by shipping pallets of baby formula to the southern border as American families face empty shelves. This is unacceptable."

Customs and Border Protection has a legal obligation to provide a standard of care due to the Flores Agreement that stemmed from a lawsuit filed against now-disbanded Immigration and Naturalization Services. Negotiated in 1997 by the Clinton Justice Department, the agreement expressly states that "facilities will provide access to toilets and sinks, drinking water and food as appropriate," in addition to other requirements.

Pelosi called Stefanik's statement "totally irresponsible." She said Democrats have scheduled multiple hearings into the issue and that Congress "must do something as quickly as possible, but as safely as possible," noting an effort by Democrats to approve new funding to speed imports of formula from other countries.

Pelosi also acknowledged the unprecedented nature of the House Jan. 6 select committee's subpoenas to five sitting GOP members of Congress to compel their testimony -- but did not say whether the House would vote to hold them in contempt of Congress for any defiance.

"I know you give the committee a wide berth, but if Leader McCarthy and the other Republicans hold out, will the House vote to hold them in contempt?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"The committee will take this one step at a time, but I'm very proud of the committee," Pelosi replied.

"People will say to me, 'Well this is unprecedented.' Yeah, well it was unprecedented for the president of the United States to incite an insurrection on the Capitol, on the Congress," she said.

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