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切尼说,1月6日委员会正在与特朗普的法律团队讨论作证事宜

2022-11-02 09:58  -ABC   - 

众议员利兹·切尼说,众议院1月6日的委员会正在与前总统进行会谈唐纳德·特朗普他可能的证词。

“委员会正在与特朗普总统的律师进行讨论,他有义务遵守,”委员会副主席切尼周二在克利夫兰州立大学与PBS记者朱迪·伍德拉夫(Judy Woodruff)进行讨论时表示。

切尼补充说:“我们对待这件事非常认真。”。“在这种情况下,委员会不会任由唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)摆布,因为他在努力打造一个马戏团。”

10月21日,众议院委员会迈出了历史性的一步,正式向特朗普发出传票。

特朗普将于11月4日(本周五)面临他的第一个最后期限,传票要求他在这一天交出文件。传票还要求他在11月14日左右开始的一天或几天的作证中出庭。

“正如我们的听证会所证明的那样,我们已经收集了压倒性的证据,包括来自你的几十名前被任命者和工作人员的证据,表明你亲自策划和监督了一场由多个部分组成的努力,以推翻2020年总统选举,并阻碍权力的和平转移,”切尼和主席本尼·汤普森说。,在给特朗普的信中写道。

特朗普尚未公开表示是否会配合传票。据熟悉他想法的消息人士透露,特朗普告诉顾问们,他欢迎在委员会面前现场亮相。该委员会似乎不愿意给特朗普一个未经过滤的扩音器来重复关于2020年选举的谎言。

特朗普的律师大卫·沃林顿(David Warrington)表示,在这个问题被传唤的当天,他们将“审查和分析它,并将对这一前所未有的行动做出适当的回应。”

委员会成员在是否希望特朗普在现场作证的问题上存在分歧,但该小组已经明确表示,任何证词都需要在宣誓后进行。

“我们还没有就格式本身做出决定,但它将在宣誓下完成,它可能会在几天内完成,”切尼周二告诉伍德拉夫。“根据我们已经掌握的证据,以及我们已经知道的关于他个人和直接参与努力的各个方面的程度,我们有重大的疑问。”

PHOTO: Vice Chair Liz Cheney speaks as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, holds a hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., on Oct. 13, 2022.

Vice Chair Liz Cheney speaks as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, holds a hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., on Oct. 13, 2022.

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伍德拉夫就特朗普是否会作证的可能性向切尼施压。

“我认为他有作证的法律义务,但这对唐纳德·特朗普来说并不总是有分量的,”切尼说。

当被问及如果特朗普拒绝遵守,她是否认为委员会应该将刑事案件提交给司法部时,切尼说,她不想超越小组的工作。

她说:“委员会一直在以非常合作的方式工作,我预计我们不会在这方面有分歧,但我们必须在关键时刻做出决定。”

该委员会将于1月6日结束工作,并向国会提交一份调查结果和建议报告。

Jan. 6 committee 'in discussions' with Trump's legal team about testifying, Cheney says

Rep. Liz Cheney said the House Jan. 6 committee is in talks with former PresidentDonald Trump's lawyers about his potential testimony.

"The committee is in discussions with President Trump's attorneys and he has an obligation to comply," Cheney, the vice chair of the committee, said Tuesday during a discussion with PBS journalist Judy Woodruff at Cleveland State University.

"We treat this and take this very seriously," Cheney added. "This is not a situation where the committee is going to put itself at the mercy of Donald Trump in terms of his efforts to create a circus."

The House committee took the historic step of formally issuing a subpoena to Trump on Oct. 21.

Trump faces his first deadline this Friday, Nov. 4, the date the subpoena requires him to turn over documents. The subpoena also requires him to appear for one or more days of deposition beginning around Nov. 14.

"As demonstrated in our hearings, we have assembled overwhelming evidence, including from dozens of your former appointees and staff, that you personally orchestrated and oversaw a multi-part effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power," Cheney and Chair Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., wrote in a letter to Trump.

Trump has not publicly said whether or not he will cooperate with the subpoena. According to sources familiar with his thinking, Trump told advisers he'd welcome a live appearance before the panel. It doesn't appear the committee is willing to give Trump the benefit of an unfiltered megaphone to repeat falsehoods about the 2020 election.

David Warrington, an attorney for Trump, said the day the issue was subpoenaed they would "review and analyze it, and will respond as appropriate to this unprecedented action."

Committee members have been split about whether they would want Trump to testify in a live setting, but the panel's been clear that any testimony would need to happen under oath.

"We haven't made determinations about the format itself but it will be done under oath, it will be done potentially over multiple days," Cheney told Woodruff on Tuesday. "We have significant questions based on the evidence that we've developed and what we know already about the extent to which he was personally and directly involved in every aspect of the effort."

Woodruff pressed Cheney on the odds that Trump will testify or not.

"I think he has a legal obligation to testify but that doesn't always carry weight with Donald Trump," Cheney said.

Asked if she believes the committee should make a criminal referral to the Justice Department should Trump refuse to comply, Cheney said she didn't want to get ahead of the panel's work.

"The committee has been working in a very collaborative way and I would anticipate we won't have disagreements about that, but we'll have to make those decisions as we come to it," she said.

The Jan. 6 committee will conclude its work by the end of the year and produce a report on its findings and recommendations to Congress.

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