前副总统迈克·彭斯在1997年说对美国广播公司“今晚世界新闻”节目主持人大卫·穆尔的独家采访在1月6日的骚乱中,虽然他正在努力与军队和执法官员联系,但他无法与当时的总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)明显的不作为交谈。
“在几个小时的过程中,你与代理国防部长进行了交谈。你和参谋长联席会议的马克·米利将军谈过了。你和代理司法部长杰夫·罗森以及国会警察局长谈过了。在这一切中,总统在哪里?”穆尔问这位前副总统。
“大卫,我在国会大厦。我当时不在白宫,”彭斯告诉穆尔。“我无法解释总统那天在做什么。我当时在国会大厦的一个装卸码头,那里正在发生骚乱。”
穆尔就特朗普在白宫通过电视观看骚乱的报道向彭斯施压。
“但他为什么不打这些电话?”穆尔追问。
彭斯回应道:“这对他来说是个好问题。”
Former Vice President Mike Pence is interviewed by David Muir of ABC News.
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在印第安纳州前副总统的家中接受专访时,穆尔还就特朗普是否应该再次入主白宫、彭斯是否会竞选总统、特朗普是否会在中期选举中伤害共和党人以及彭斯如何看待当局称机密文件被从白宫拿走等问题向彭斯施压。
2021年1月6日,彭斯正在监督国会对2020年选举团结果的认证,当时一大群人在特朗普的敦促下游行到国会大厦,然后越过安保并破坏了大楼,将彭斯和国会议员锁在了一起。
特朗普坚称自己没有做错什么,最终让暴徒离开,但此前他指责彭斯没有阻止认证-彭斯指出他在法律上不能这样做-并重复了关于2020年大选中普遍欺诈的毫无根据的阴谋论。
Muir asks Pence why Trump didn't make calls during 1/6 riot: 'Good question for him,' Pence says
Former Vice President Mike Pence said inan exclusive interview with ABC's "World News Tonight" anchor David Muirthat while he was working to connect with military and law enforcement officials during the Jan. 6 riot, he couldn't speak to then-President Donald Trump's apparent inaction.
"Over the course of several hours, you spoke with the acting defense secretary. You spoke with the joint chiefs of staff, Gen. [Mark] Milley. You spoke the acting attorney general, Jeff Rosen, with the chief of Capitol police. Where was the president in all this?" Muir asked the former vice president.
"David, I was at the Capitol. I wasn't at the White House," Pence told Muir. "I can't account for what the president was doing that day. I was at a loading dock in the Capitol where a riot was taking place."
Muir pressed Pence on reports that Trump was watching the riot unfold on television at the White House.
"But why wasn't he making these calls?" Muir pressed.
Pence responded: "That'd be a good question for him."
In an exclusive interview at the former vice president's home in Indiana, Muir also pressed Pence on whether Trump should ever be in the White House again, whether Pence will run for president, whether Trump hurt Republicans in the midterms, and what Pence makes of authorities saying classified documents were taken from the White House.
Pence was overseeing Congress' certification of the 2020 Electoral College results on Jan. 6, 2021, when a large crowd urged on by Trump marched to the Capitol and then overran security and vandalized the building, sending Pence and congressional lawmakers into lockdown.
Trump, who has insisted he did nothing wrong, ultimately told the rioters to leave but only after berating Pence for not blocking the certification -- which Pence noted he couldn't legally do -- and repeating baseless conspiracy theories about widespread fraud in the 2020 election.