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众议员科尔特斯说,拜登讲话时的情绪爆发“相当令人震惊”

2023-02-09 10:52 -ABC  -  128158

众议员亚历山大·奥卡西奥·科尔特斯(Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)对总统乔·拜登(Joe Biden)的第二次发言发表了看法国情咨文,称赞总司令,批评共和党人在演讲中的发飙。

周二拜登向国会和全国发表讲话时,奥卡西奥-科尔特斯是与会的立法者之一。他谈到了警察改革,优先考虑社会保障,以及在分裂的国会中进行合作的必要性。

这位纽约国会女议员与美国广播公司新闻直播的Linsey Davis分享了她对拜登议程以及她是否会支持总统连任的想法。

戴维斯:共和党对拜登总统讲话的回应今晚由阿肯色州州长、前特朗普白宫新闻秘书萨拉·哈克比·桑德斯发表。让我们来听听她的一段话。

“我是领导我们州的第一位女性,而他是第一个将总统职位拱手让给一群觉醒的暴徒的人,他们甚至不知道什么是女人。在激进左翼的美国,华盛顿向你们征税,将你们辛苦赚来的钱付之一炬,但你们却被高油价、空空的食品货架压垮,我们的孩子被教育要因为种族而彼此仇恨,而不是彼此相爱或热爱我们伟大的国家。不管乔·拜登是否相信这种疯狂,或者只是太软弱而无法抵抗,他的政府已经完全被激进左翼劫持了。美国的分界线不再是左派或右派。选择是正常还是疯狂。一群觉醒的暴徒,他们甚至不能告诉你什么是女人。”'

萨拉·哈克比·桑德斯的一些有趣的描述。我们现在连线来自纽约的民主党众议员亚历山大·奥卡西奥·科尔特斯,听听她对今晚演讲的反应。非常感谢你加入我们,女议员。

PHOTO: U.S. House Oversight and Accountability Committee member Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez attends the committee's hearing about Twitter's handling of a 2020 New York Post story about Hunter Biden and his laptop, in Washington, Feb. 8, 2023.

2023年2月8日,美国众议院监督和问责委员会成员亚历山大·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯(Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)出席该委员会关于推特处理2020年《纽约邮报》关于亨特·拜登和他的笔记本电脑的报道的听证会。

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众议员奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:谢谢你邀请我。

戴维斯:首先,我很好奇你对哈克比·桑德斯州长的评论有什么反应。

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:嗯,你知道,我认为州长哈克比·桑德斯的回应在情感和主题上与共和党今晚的表现一致并不令人惊讶。我认为这是非常错误的。它依赖于各种稻草人和转移注意力的东西。坦率地说,我认为这是特别麻木不仁和侮辱。你刚才重复的那句话,你知道,引用原话,当跨性美国人受到如此多的攻击时,你不知道什么是女人。坦率地说,像其他每个美国人一样,在这样一个大平台上针对这样一个弱势群体,并以这种方式暗示和影射他们应该享有尊严,这令人恶心。

戴维斯:让我们回到今晚我们在房间地板上看到的。你对共和党人对总统在削减社会保障等问题上的一些主张的一些反应有什么反应,用诘问和大喊“骗子”来回应?

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:是的,你知道,我认为这非常令人惊讶,非常令人震惊。即使在特朗普总统及其政府执政期间,我们也从未见过如此有争议和诘问的国情咨文。即使特朗普总统本人提出了许多人认为是错误的,或者充其量是有争议的声明。因此,我认为,这个机构的性质和你所知道的,这个演讲的内容和它在制度上的内容,这是一份向公众和整个国会提交的关于国情咨文和总统未来计划的报告,是相当淡化的。所以看到这种情况真的很奇怪。

但我也认为,这反映了一个事实,即共和党一直在努力表明,他们没有被党内的极端势力接管。但我认为今晚所显示的是,那个所谓的极端派已经成为他们的中心,以至于他们没有太多的自制力,特别是当涉及到共和党人寻求削减社会保障和医疗保险的主张时。你知道,他们可能会说这不是真的,但如果你看看他们的计划,他们真的是言外之意。如果不动用这笔开支,他们就无法实现他们提出的这些财务目标。

所以他们真的需要考虑他们坚持的主张。他们是坚持围绕预算计划的这一主张,还是不打算触及社会保障和医疗保险?我想总统伸出手说,我们不要碰社会保障和医疗保险。

戴维斯:关于拜登总统的信息,你认为他在今晚的议程中有多有效?

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:你知道,我相信总统真的坚持餐桌问题,他谈论胰岛素的价格。他谈到,你知道,最大限度地提高或者更确切地说,把处方药的最高自付费用限制在每年2000美元。这些都是重要的事情。但最重要的是,我认为他他真的很明确地呼吁像大型制药公司这样的机构或像大型制药公司这样的影响。

他指出了这些石油公司的利润率,他们在购买股票回购的同时对抗美国人,并将美国人去年遇到的最高燃料价格转嫁给他们。

所以我认为这很重要。我认为他今晚所做的对比很重要,因为为了让他明确自己选择的道路,真正描绘出这些选择是很重要的。

戴维斯:总统简要地谈到了警察改革。今晚有这么多警察暴力受害者的家庭成员在观众席上,你认为有什么方法可以让各方能够走到一起,通过一些有意义的事情?我们知道它上次在众议院通过了,但后来在参议院被搁置了。蒂姆·司各特和科里·布克就是没能冲过终点线。在这一点上,你认为情况会怎样?

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:嗯,你知道,我认为克服十名共和党参议员的参议院阻挠议事行为是一个非常非常陡峭的山要爬。你知道,几乎没有能力认识到这个事实,这是一个问题,即使在乔治·弗洛伊德和特雷冯·马丁,现在提尔·尼科尔斯和许多其他受害者,桑德拉·布兰德和布里奥纳·泰勒之后,我的意思是,这些名字还在继续。但是共和党人并没有意识到我们应该把这个问题当作民权问题来解决。

因此,我认为,这确实给政府施加了额外的压力,无论以何种方式,他们都可以利用行政办公室的权力,无论是还是总统的讲坛,就像他今晚所做的那样,用数百万美国人的生活现实来提升这个问题的合法性。

戴维斯:当然,拜登总统还没有正式宣布他的2024年计划,但这次演讲非常像他在为下一个任期做准备。想听听你的看法,你会在2024年支持拜登总统吗?你认为还有比乔·拜登更好的民主党人吗?

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:你知道,目前看起来他们不是你知道,我认为拜登总统现在是民主党推出的唯一候选人。我相信,你知道,如果他赢得提名,他绝对会得到我的支持。你知道,作为总统候选人,我支持他。是的。

戴维斯:众议员亚历山大·奥卡西奥·科尔特斯,非常感谢你来到我们的节目。感谢你的时间。

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:谢谢。

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says outbursts during Biden's address 'quite shocking'

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez weighed in on President Joe Biden's secondState of the Union address, praising the commander in chief and criticizing Republicans for their outbursts during the speech.

Ocasio-Cortez was among the lawmakers in attendance Tuesday as Biden addressed Congress and the nation. He spoke of police reform, prioritizing Social Security and the need for cooperation in a divided Congress.

The New York congresswoman shared her thoughts with ABC News Live's Linsey Davis about Biden's agenda and whether she would support the president for another term.

DAVIS: The Republican response to President Biden's address was delivered tonight by Arkansas governor and former Trump White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Let's take a listen to a portion of her remarks.

"I'm the first woman to lead my state, and he's the first man to surrender his presidency to a woke mob that can't even tell you what a woman is. In the radical left's America, Washington taxes you and lights your hard-earned money on fire, but you get crushed with high gas prices, empty grocery shelves, and our children are taught to hate one another on account of their race, but not to love one another or our great country. Whether Joe Biden believes this madness or is simply too weak to resist it, his administration has been completely hijacked by the radical left. The dividing line in America is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal or crazy. A woke mob who can't even tell you what a woman is."'

Some interesting characterizations there from Sarah Huckabee Sanders. We are joined now by Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York for her reaction to tonight's address. Thank you so much for joining us, Congresswoman.

REP. OCASIO-CORTEZ: Thank you for having me.

DAVIS: So first, just curious to get your response to Gov. Huckabee Sanders there in her remarks.

OCASIO-CORTEZ: Well, you know, I think that it's unsurprising that a governor, Gov. Huckabee Sanders' response was emotionally and thematically kind of in tune with how Republicans were behaving tonight. I think that it was very mischaracteristic. It relied on a lot of kind of straw men and red herrings. And frankly, I think it was particularly insensitive and insulting. That line that you just repeated about, you know, quote unquote, not knowing what a woman is in this moment when, you know, trans Americans have been under so much attack. It is disgusting, frankly, to have such a vulnerable community targeted on such a large platform and alluded to and insinuated to in this way when they deserve dignity, just like every other American does.

DAVIS: And let's move back into what we saw on the floor in the chamber tonight. What was your reaction to some of those outbursts by Republicans responding to some of the president's claims on issues like cutting Social Security, responding with heckles and shouts of 'liar'?

OCASIO-CORTEZ: Yeah, you know, I I think it was quite surprising, quite shocking. Even under the even under President Trump and his administration, we never saw such a contentious and heckled State of the Union. Even when President Trump himself was advancing statements that many would consider false or, you know, at best, arguable. And so it was quite diminishing, I think, of the character of the body and what this you know, what what this speech was about and what it is about institutionally, which is a report to the public and the in the whole of Congress on the State of the Union and the president's plans for the future. So it was it was truly bizarre to see that happen.

But I also think that it's quite reflective of the fact that the Republican Party has been making such an effort to say that they have not been taken over by this extreme wing of the party. But I think what tonight showed is that that quote unquote, extreme wing has become their center to the point that they that they there isn't really much self-control, especially when it came to these claims around Republicans seeking to cut Social Security and Medicare. You know, they may say that it's not true, but if you look at their plan, they're really speaking between the lines. There is no way that they can meet these financial goals that they have advanced without touching this this spending.

And so they really need to reckon with which, you know, which claim that they're sticking to. Are they sticking to this claim around their budgetary plan or are they not going to touch Social Security and Medicare? And I think the president extended his hand and said, let's not touch Social Security and Medicare.

DAVIS: On President Biden's message, how effectively do you think that he was or how effective do you think that he was in making the case for his agenda tonight?

OCASIO-CORTEZ: You know, I believe that the president really stuck to kitchen table issues, him talking about the price of insulin. Him talking about, you know, maxing out the or rather capping the out-of-pocket maximums for prescription drugs at $2,000 a year. These are important things. But on top of that, I think he he really clearly called out institutions like Big Pharma or influences like Big Pharma.

He called out the profit margins that these oil companies, while they were purchasing stock buybacks while confronting Americans and passing on some of the highest fuel prices that Americans have have encountered in the last year.

So I think it was important. I think him drawing that contrast tonight was important because it is important to really delineate what these alternatives are in order for him to clarify what path he's choosing.

DAVIS: The president spoke briefly about police reform. With so many family members of victims of police violence in the audience tonight, is there any way that you see that the parties will be able to come together to pass something meaningful? We know that it made it out of the House last time, but then stalled in the Senate. Tim Scott and Cory Booker are just not able to get it over the finish line. At this point, where do you think that things stand?

OCASIO-CORTEZ: Well, you know, I think overcoming a Senate filibuster with ten Republican senators who are willing to take on the issue of police brutality, that is a very, very steep hill to climb. There is, you know, barely even the ability to recognize this fact that this is that this is an issue even after George Floyd and Trayvon Martin and now Tyre Nichols and so many other victims, Sandra Bland and just Breonna Taylor, I mean, the names go on. But the recognition among the Republican Party for us to tackle this as the civil rights issue that it is, is lacking.

And so, I believe that that does put additional pressure on the administration in whichever ways that they can, to use the power of the executive office, whether or the bully pulpit of the presidency, as he did tonight, to elevate the legitimacy of this issue with a lived reality for millions of Americans.

DAVIS: President Biden, of course, has not officially announced his 2024 plans, but the speech very much felt like he was making the case for another term. Like to get your take, would you support President Biden in 2024? Do you see any other Democrats as a better option than Joe Biden?

OCASIO-CORTEZ: You know, presently it doesn't seem that that that they're you know, I believe that President Biden right now is the only candidate that the Democratic Party is advancing. And I believe that, you know, should he and when he wins the nomination, he will absolutely have my support. He has you know, he has my support as the candidate for president. Yes.

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