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“没有人的手是干净的”:奥巴马,一些民主党人在支持以色列问题上与拜登决裂

2023-11-07 10:26 -ABC  -  331529

对…的民主支持乔·拜登总统在谈到他对以色列的支持时犹豫不决它与哈马斯的冲突包括前总统奥巴马在内的几名他自己政党的成员表示,必须采取更多措施来避免杀害巴勒斯坦平民。

拜登试图通过辩称以色列有权自卫来寻求平衡,同时警告以色列尽可能小心。但自卸任以来一直保持低调的奥巴马,在周末浮出水面的评论中,似乎与他的前副总统分道扬镳,后者公开支持以色列总理本杰明·内坦哈尤,称“没有人的手是干净的。”

据哈马斯经营的加沙卫生部称,自以色列官员称,10月7日哈马斯恐怖袭击造成1400多名以色列人死亡后,以色列开始在加沙地带实施轰炸和地面行动以来,已有1万多名巴勒斯坦人丧生。

“如果你想解决问题,那么你必须接受全部事实。然后你必须承认没有人的手是干净的。我们所有人在某种程度上都是同谋,”奥巴马在他的四名前助手主持的播客“拯救美国”上说。摘录周六被发布到X在周二发布完整播客之前。

奥巴马说,以色列的“占领”和“发生在巴勒斯坦人身上的事情是无法忍受的。”

“现在有人正在死去,他们与哈马斯的所作所为毫无关系,”奥巴马说,他对生活在加沙的巴勒斯坦人和激进组织哈马斯进行了区分,美国已将哈马斯定为恐怖组织。

虽然奥巴马没有直接抨击拜登,但他的言论似乎违背了拜登政府对以色列的坚定支持。拜登全力支持以色列这个盟友,因为以色列与哈马斯的战争正在中东激烈进行。

上个月,他告诉内塔尼亚胡,美国“将继续支持以色列”,美国将“今天、明天和永远”与以色列站在一起——我们向你保证。上个月,拜登表示,双方的生命都是宝贵的。

星期五,国务卿安东尼·布林肯说他利用最近一次与内塔尼亚胡的面对面会谈,提出了美国暂停战斗的理由,他认为这对保护平民生命、允许人道主义援助进入加沙以及加强努力解救被关押在飞地近一个月的数十名人质至关重要,并列出了政府管理冲突后果的最新战略。

当被要求对奥巴马的评论做出回应时,一名白宫官员没有直接回答这位前总统是否偏离了拜登的立场,而是将这些评论描述为奥巴马对“复杂历史”的概述,以及为什么不能“提炼到社交媒体帖子中”

“我会让前总统的团队去回应他的评论,”这位白宫官员说。

密歇根州的民主党众议员拉希达·特莱布,谁不羞于批评拜登在加沙的做法,发布了一个周五X上的严厉视频她指责拜登支持巴勒斯坦的“种族灭绝”

在视频中,国会中第一位巴勒斯坦裔女性Tlaib呼吁在冲突中停火。拜登和他的政府拒绝呼吁全面停火,但敦促人道主义“暂停”,让平民离开加沙,让援助流入。

“总统先生,美国人民在这个问题上不支持你,”特拉伊卜在视频中说。

在视频的最后,出现了一个黑色的屏幕,上面写着:“乔·拜登支持对巴勒斯坦人民的种族灭绝。”

后来,帖子说,“拜登,现在支持停火。或者2024年就别指望我们了。”

独立参议员伯尼·桑德斯周日在美国有线电视新闻网的“国情咨文”中说道以色列必须停止轰炸,特别是考虑到袭击造成的平民伤亡。

“以色列有权自卫。但在我看来,以色列无权做的是杀害成千上万与那次袭击无关的无辜男女和儿童,”桑德斯说,后来又补充说,“我们现在必须停止轰炸。”

上周,康涅狄格州的民主党参议员克里斯·墨菲(Chris Murphy)称平民死亡是“不可接受的”,并敦促以色列“重新考虑其做法,转向更加审慎和相称的反地形运动。”

“是时候让以色列的朋友们认识到,目前的做法正在造成不可接受的平民伤害,而且似乎不可能实现结束哈马斯威胁的目标,”墨菲在发布到x的声明。

在全国各地的许多抗议活动中都可以听到亲巴勒斯坦的情绪。值得注意的是,周末,数千人聚集在华盛顿特区呼吁停火并结束对加沙地带的封锁。周六,抗议者聚集在白宫外,高呼“自由,自由的巴勒斯坦”,之前他们挤满了华盛顿特区的许多街道。

组织抗议的团体之一“立即行动起来,停止战争,结束种族主义”在其网站上写道,“以色列在美国政府的全力支持下,正在加沙进行前所未有的大屠杀。数以千计的巴勒斯坦人被美国纳税人支付的炸弹、子弹和导弹杀害。”

随着冲突进入一个月,美国人继续关注并对拜登的角色有强烈的看法。最近的民意调查由538收集大约70%的美国成年人表示,他们非常关注或比较关注战争新闻。

虽然民调显示大多数美国人在冲突中站在以色列一边,但也显示大多数美国人不赞成拜登处理危机的方式。一项SSRS/CNN的民意调查发现,只有47%的美国人“适度”或“非常”信任拜登能对以色列局势做出正确的决定。剩下的53%的人对他“不太信任”或“根本不信任”,538人指出。

上周众议院批准了共和党领导的对以色列的一揽子援助计划,这将为以色列提供143亿美元。然而,它几乎没有机会成为法律,多数党领袖查克·舒默上周宣布,参议院不会接受众议院通过的以色列援助法案,因为参议院民主党人基本上拒绝了该法案通过削减国税局资金来支付援助的提议。

相反,舒默说,参议院将继续致力于拜登总统提出的更强有力的一揽子计划,其中可能包括对以色列、乌克兰和台湾的援助,以及为南部边境提供资金。目前还不清楚将这一方案提交参议院需要多长时间。

'Nobody's hands are clean': Obama, some Democrats break with Biden on support for Israel

Democratic support forPresident Joe Bidenis wavering when it comes to his backing of Israel amidits conflict with Hamas, with several members of his own party, including former President Barack Obama, saying more must be done to avoid killing Palestinian civilians.

Biden has tried to strike a balance by arguing Israel has a right to self-defense while warning Israel to be as careful as possible. But Obama, who has for the most part kept a low profile since leaving the presidency, in comments that surfaced over the weekend, appeared to split with his former vice president who has publicly supported Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanhayu, saying, "nobody's hands are clean."

More than 10,000 Palestinians have been killed, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry, since Israel began a bombing and ground campaign in the Gaza Strip after the surprise Hamas terror attack on Oct. 7 killed more than 1,400 Israelis, according to Israeli officials.

"If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody's hands are clean. That all of us are complicit to some degree," Obama said on "Pod Save America" -- the podcast hosted by four of his former aides. An excerptwas posted to X on Saturdayahead of the full podcast release Tuesday.

Obama said the Israeli "occupation" and "what's happening to Palestinians is unbearable."

"There are people right now who are dying who have nothing to do with what Hamas did," Obama said, making the distinction between Palestinians who live in Gaza and the militant group Hamas, which the U.S. has designated a terrorist organization.

While Obama didn't take a direct swipe at Biden, his comments appear to go against the Biden administration's staunch support of Israel. Biden has offered full-throated support for Israel, an ally, as its war with Hamas rages on in the Middle East.

Last month, he told Netanyahu that the U.S. "will continue to have Israel's back" and that the U.S. will stand with Israel "today, tomorrow and always -- we promise you." Last month, Biden said that lives on both side are precious.

On Friday,Secretary of State Antony Blinken saidhe used his most recent face-to-face meeting with Netanyahu to make the U.S. case for temporary pauses in the fighting, which he argued were critical to protecting civilian lives, allowing humanitarian aid to move into Gaza and boosting efforts to free the scores of hostages held in the enclave for nearly a month -- laying out the administration's updated strategy for managing fallout from the conflict.

Asked for a response to Obama's comments, a White House official didn't directly address whether the former president deviated from Biden's stance, instead describing the comments as Obama's overview on the "complex history" and why that can't be "distilled into a social media post."

"I’d leave it to the former president’s team to speak to his comments," the White House official said.

Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan,who has not been shy about criticizing Biden's approach in Gaza, posted ascathing video on X on Fridayin which she accused Biden of supporting a Palestinian "genocide."

In the video, Tlaib, the first woman of Palestinian descent in Congress, calls for a cease-fire in the conflict. Biden and his administration have resisted calling for a general cease-fire, but have urged humanitarian "pauses" to allow civilians to exit Gaza and for aid to flow in.

"Mr. President, the American people are not with you on this one," Tlaib says in the video.

At the end of the video, a black screen appears with the words: "Joe Biden supported the genocide of the Palestinian people."

Later, the post says, "Biden, support a ceasefire now. Or don't count on us in 2024."

Independent Sen. Bernie Sanderssaid Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union"that Israel must halt the bombings -- especially given the toll the attacks are taking in civilian lives.

"Israel has a right to defend itself. But what Israel does not, in my view, have a right to do is to kill thousands and thousands of innocent men, women and children who had nothing to do with that attack," Sanders said, later adding "we have got to stop the bombing now."

Last week, Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut called the civilian deaths "unacceptable" and urged Israel to "reconsider its approach and shift to a more deliberate and proportionate counterterroism campaign."

"It's time for Israel's friends to recognize that the current approach is causing an unacceptable level of civilian harm and does not appear likely to achieve the goal of ending the threat from Hamas," Murphy wrote ina statement posted to X.

Pro-Palestinian sentiments can be heard at many protests around the country. Notably,thousands gathered in Washington, D.C., over the weekendto call for a cease-fire and an end of the siege on the Gaza Strip. Protesters filled many D.C. streets before gathering outside the White House, chanting "Free, free Palestine" on Saturday.

Act Now to Stop War and End Racism, one of the groups that organized the protest, wrote on its website that "Israel, with the full backing of the U.S. government, is carrying out an unprecedented massacre in Gaza. Thousands of Palestinians are being killed with bombs, bullets and missiles paid for by U.S. tax dollars."

As the conflict enters a month, Americans are continuing to take note and have strong opinions about Biden's role. Recent pollsgathered by 538show around 70% of American adults said they were following news of the war either very closely or somewhat closely.

While polls showed that most Americans side with Israel in the conflict, they also showed that most Americans disapprove of Biden's handling of the crisis. An SSRS/CNN poll found only 47% of Americans trusted Biden "moderately" or "a great deal" to make the right decisions about the situation in Israel. The remaining 53% trusted him "not much" or "not at all," 538 noted.

Last week, theHouse approved a Republican-led aid package to Israel,which would provide $14.3 billion to Israel. It faces little chance of becoming law, however, with Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announcing last week that the Senate will not take up the House-passed Israel aid bill because Senate Democrats largely reject the bill's proposal to pay for aid by cutting from IRS funding.

Instead, Schumer said, the Senate will continue work on a more robust package proposed by President Biden that will likely include aid to Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan as well as funds for the southern border. It's not yet clear how long it will take to move such a package to the Senate floor.

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