前总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)利用他在“乔·罗根经历”(The Joe Rogan Experience)上的亮相，推动关于2020年大选的虚假说法，抨击他的对手副总统卡玛拉·哈里斯，并攻击他的前白宫工作人员。
这一集于周五晚上上线，可能是该国最大的播客观众之一，在Spotify上有超过1570万粉丝。特朗普的采访导致周五晚上在密歇根州举行的计划集会推迟了三个小时。
距离11月的选举只有一周多一点的时间，特朗普继续传播对选举结果的怀疑，抨击安全投票做法，如邮寄投票和投票机，并加倍强调他赢得2020年总统选举的错误信念。
特朗普告诉乔·罗根，“你有老式的选票作弊，”他对未签名的选票和“假选票”进行了毫无根据的指控。
罗根将选举否定主义者的标签比作反vaxxer的标签，特朗普反对邮寄投票，尽管他告诉他的支持者出去投票。
当罗根问特朗普为什么不在2020年公布涉嫌选民欺诈的全面证据时，这位前总统变得斗志昂扬，谎称他做到了，并声称他输掉了选举，因为法官“不具备所需的条件”。
当罗根提到民主党人和哈里斯时给他贴上法西斯的标签，川普回击。
“卡玛拉是一个智商非常低的人。她智商很低，”这位前总统说。
特朗普在前幕僚长约翰·凯利(John Kelly)接受采访时说，他受到了抨击特朗普称赞纳粹将军告诉罗根，他喜欢上了南方联盟的罗伯特·e·李将军。“他参加了一场本应在几天内结束的战争，你知道，这是多年的地狱般的恶性战争，”特朗普说。
这一未经编辑的插曲更像是一场对话，而不是采访，因为罗根要求特朗普回忆他的政治拱门，让他漫谈从环境到经济到医疗保健的各种话题。
然而，在自由格式中，甚至罗根有时也会迷路。
“你织得越来越宽了。我想回到关税上来，”罗根一度说道。
特朗普在8月的一次集会上提到了他的谈话风格，称之为“编织”。
“我会谈论九种不同的东西，它们会一起精彩地回来，”他当时说。
在罗根播客上，特朗普在攻击总统乔·拜登的认知能力的同时，为自己的年龄和认知敏锐度进行了辩护。
“拜登给人们带来了一个坏名声，因为那不是一个旧时代——那不是一个时代。我想他们这么说是因为我年轻三四岁，你知道吗?我想这就是他们这么说的原因。他们说他的年龄。不是他的年龄。他有问题，”特朗普说。
在谈到特朗普和拜登之间的第一场总统辩论时，罗根提出了一个被推翻的阴谋论，即民主党人希望辩论比平时早一些进行，以使拜登退出竞选。
特朗普承认这一点，但不同意，他说，“我认为没有人认为他会出去，”指的是拜登。
在播客的最后，罗根问特朗普关于外星生命的问题，以及特朗普是否相信外星人，这位前总统接着说火星上可能有生命。
“火星，我们已经有探测器和漫游者，我不认为那里有任何生命，”罗根反驳道。
“也许是我们不了解的生活，”特朗普反驳道。
Trump pushes false election claims, 'weaves' from topics during Joe Rogan interview
Former President Donald Trump used his appearance on "The Joe Rogan Experience" to push false claims about the 2020 election, bash his opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, and attack his former White House staff.
The episode, which went live Friday night, likely reached one of the biggest podcast audiences in the country, with over 15.7 million followers on Spotify. Trump's interview caused a three-hour delay at a planned rally in Michigan Friday night.
With just over a week to go until November's election, Trump continued to spread doubts about the election results, slammed secure voting practices, such as mail-in voting and voting machines, and doubled down on his false beliefs that he won the 2020 presidential election.
"You had old-fashioned ballot screwing," Trump told Joe Rogan, making unfounded claims about unsigned ballots and "phony votes."
Rogan compared the label of election denialist to the labeling of anti-vaxxer, with Trump railing against mail-in voting despite telling his supporters to go out and vote however they want.
When Rogan asked Trump why he didn't publish comprehensive evidence of alleged voter fraud in 2020, the former president got combative, falsely claiming he did and argued he lost the election because judges "didn't have what it took."
When Rogan brought up Democrats and Harrislabeling him a fascist, Trump shot back.
"Kamala is a very low IQ person. She's a very low IQ," the former president said.
Trump, who has come under fire after former Chief of Staff John Kelly said in interviews thatTrump praised Nazi generals, told Rogan he had an affinity for Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee. "He took a war that should have been over in a few days, and it was, you know, years of hell of vicious war," Trump said.
The unedited episode was more of a conversation than an interview as Rogan asked Trump to reminisce on his political arch and let him ramble about various topics from the environment to the economy to health care.
However, in the freeform format, even Rogan got lost at times.
"Your weave is getting wide. I wanna get back to tariffs," Rogan said at one point.
Trump referenced his style of talking at a rally in August, calling it "the weave."
"I'll talk about like, nine different things and they all come back brilliantly together," he said at the time.
On the Rogan podcast, Trump defended his own age and cognitive acuity while attacking President Joe Biden's cognitive ability.
"Biden gives people a bad name because that's not an old – that's not an age. I think they say it because I'm three or four years younger, you know? I think that's why they say it. They say his age. It's
While talking about the first presidential debate between Trump and Biden, Rogan floated a disproven conspiracy theory that Democrats wanted the debate to happen earlier than usual to get Biden out of the race.
Trump acknowledged it but disagreed, saying, "I don't think anybody thought he was going to get out," referring to Biden.
Toward the end of the podcast, Rogan asked Trump about extraterrestrial life and if Trump believed in aliens to which the former president went on to say there may be life on Mars.
"Mars, we've had probes there and rovers, and I don't think there's any life there," Rogan pushed back.
"Maybe it's life that we don't know about," Trump retorted.
