当选总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)在选举获胜后的首次网络电视采访中,详细介绍了他的一系列竞选承诺,包括移民、医疗保健以及他在接受NBC新闻采访时对司法部的计划。
特朗普对其中一人加倍下注,发誓要原谅1月6日,在他上任的第一天,人们因他们的角色而被监禁。
“第一天。是的,我正在寻求这些赦免,”特朗普在美国全国广播公司(NBC)的克里斯汀·韦尔克(Kristen Welker)的“与媒体见面”节目中说。
特朗普批评监狱条件,称认罪的人这样做是因为他们没有其他选择。
“看。我了解这个系统。这个系统非常腐败。他们对一个人说,‘你要去坐牢两年或30年。’这些家伙正在寻找,他们的整个生活已经被摧毁,”特朗普说。
“是啊,我要去看看一切。我们将着眼于个别案例。”
据美国司法部(Department of Justice)称,1月6日有超过1500人被逮捕或指控,其中近900人认罪。
作为其竞选的主题之一,特朗普长期以来一直承诺“释放”那些因为在那一天参与而被监禁的人,这是他作为总统的第一批行动之一,经常在他的竞选集会上向他们致敬。
特朗普做出赦免承诺之际,他对自己提名的司法部长兼美国联邦调查局局长帕姆·邦迪(Pam Bondi)和卡什·帕特尔(Kash Patel)在即将到来的政府中的角色发表了波动性的评论,如果这些提名得到确认的话。
在报复问题上,这是特朗普2024年竞选的一个中心主题,这位当选总统一再表示,他不会指示他们去追捕他的政治对手,但如果他们想的话,他们可以这样做。
“她很有经验,”他这样评价邦迪。“我想让她做她想做的事。我不会指示她去追捕特别检察官杰克·史密斯,他称之为“非常腐败”的人。
“如果他们认为某人是不诚实或不诚实或腐败的政治家,我认为他可能有义务这样做,”当选总统谈到帕特尔调查特朗普的竞争对手。
帕特尔一直呼吁对媒体、司法部和民主党成员进行调查,包括总统乔·拜登希拉里·克林顿呼吁“大扫除”尽管特朗普辩称,他不会直接告诉邦迪和帕特尔去追人,但他很清楚,他们会有自由这么做。
除了攻击拜登和史密斯,特朗普还严厉批评了1月6日调查的众议院特别委员会,呼吁成员们监禁的.
“[前众议员利兹]切尼是幕后黑手。本尼·汤普森和委员会里的所有人也是,说实话,他们应该去坐牢。”
然而,当被问及他是否会指示邦迪把他们扔进监狱时,特朗普再次试图将这一决定从自己身上移开。
“我认为他们必须考虑这一点。但我不会。我要把重点放在“钻吧,宝贝,钻吧。”"
鉴于特朗普在竞选期间和现在的过渡期间一直在继续这些威胁,拜登正在考虑先发制人地赦免一些受到特朗普愤怒的人,包括切尼和民主党参议员当选人亚当·希夫,他们是众议院1月6日调查的一部分,以及国家过敏和传染病研究所前所长安东尼·福奇博士,他因政府对新冠肺炎·疫情的反应而面临严格审查。
当被问及这些可能性时赦免特朗普从拜登那里告诉NBC,“也许他应该这样做。”
“如果拜登愿意,他可以赦免他们。也许他应该,”他说,继续攻击他们的调查。
Trump promises pardon for Jan 6 rioters on his first day
In his first network TV interview since his electoral victory, President-elect Donald Trump went through a range of his campaign promises, including those on immigration, health care, and his plans for the Justice Department in an interview with NBC News.
Trump doubled down on one of them, vowing topardonpeople jailed for their role on Jan. 6 on his first day in office.
“First day. Yeah, I'm looking for these pardons,” Trump told NBC’s Kristen Welker on "Meet the Press."
Criticizing the jail conditions, Trump argued the people who plead guilty did so because they had no other choice.
“Look. I know the system. The system’s a very corrupt system. They say to a guy, ‘You’re going to go to jail for two years or for 30 years.’ And these guys are looking, their whole lives have been destroyed,” said Trump.
“Yeah, I’m going to look at everything. We’re going to look at individual cases.”
According to the Department of Justice, more than 1,500 people have been arrested or charged in connection with Jan. 6 with almost 900 of them pleading guilty.
As one of his campaign's main themes, Trump long promised to "free" those imprisoned for their participation on that day as one of his first acts as president, oftentimes honoring them at his campaign rallies.
Trump’s pardon promise comes as he offered fluctuating comments on the role his picks for attorney general and FBI director, Pam Bondi and Kash Patel, would play in his upcoming administration should they be confirmed.
On the issue of retribution, which was a central theme in Trump's 2024 campaign, the president-elect repeatedly said he wouldn’t direct them to go after his political rivals, but they could if they wanted to.
“She's very experienced," he said of Bondi. "I want her to do what she wants to do. I'm not going to instruct her” to go after Special Counsel Jack Smith, who he called a “very corrupt” person.
“If they think that somebody was dishonest or crooked or corrupt politician, I think he probably has an obligation to do it,” the president-elect said about Patel investigating Trump's rivals.
Patel has long called for investigations into members of the media, Department of Justice, and Democrats, including PresidentJoe Bidenand Hillary Clinton, calling for a “housecleaning.” Although Trump argued he wouldn’t directly tell Bondi and Patel to go after people, he was clear that they would have free range to do so.
Aside from attacking Biden and Smith, Trump also harshly criticized the House Select Committee investigating Jan. 6, calling for members to bejailed.
“[Former Rep. Liz] Cheney was behind it. So is Benny Thompson and everybody on that committe, honestly, they should go to jail.”
Again, though, Trump looked to move that decision away from himself when asked if he would direct Bondi to throw them in jail.
“I think that they'll have to look at that. But I'm not going to. I'm going to focus on 'Drill, baby, drill.'”
Given that Trump has continued these threats throughout his campaign and now during the transition, Biden is considering preemptive pardons to some of those that have received Trump’s wrath, including Cheney and Democratic Sen.-elect Adam Schiff, who were part of the House Jan. 6 investigation, and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who has faced intense scrutiny over the government's response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
When asked about those possiblepardonsfrom Biden, Trump told NBC “maybe he should.”
“Biden can give them a pardon if he wants to. And maybe he should,” he said, going on to continue to attack their investigation.