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比尔·克林顿表示,他希望拜登不会先发制人地发布赦免令

2024-12-12 10:07 -ABC  -  333334

  前总统比尔·克林顿星期三在美国广播公司的“观点”节目中表示,他希望总统乔·拜登不会先发制人地赦免可能成为候任总统唐纳德·特朗普政府目标的人,包括克林顿的妻子、前国务卿希拉里·克林顿。

  “如果拜登总统想和我谈这个,我会和他谈的。但我不认为我应该就赦免权发表公开意见。我认为这太——这是非常私人的事情,但这是——我希望他不会那样做,”克林顿说。

  “如果我们得到的只是简单的正义,我们大多数人都会提前离开这个世界。所以这通常是一个傻瓜的差事。你花了很多时间试图报复,”他补充道。

  拜登总统和他的高级助手一直在讨论先发制人的赦免据一位接近总统的消息人士称,这些人可能是特朗普新政府的目标。专家告诉ABC新闻根据宪法,他有权这样做。

  克林顿强调,他不认为即将上任的特朗普政府对希拉里·克林顿提出的任何潜在指控都是有效的,认为她在国务院期间处理电子邮件的方式没有任何错误-这一争议在2016年选举周期后期成为一个爆发点。

  当被单独问及他最近关于共和党人更有可能成为第一位女总统的评论时,克林顿说,“说女性可能不应该成为总统的冲动更多地来自大脑中的右翼而不是左翼,这是一种冲动的事情。”

  他还推测,选民并不总是看重一位政治家有多少经验,因为他们关注的是日常事务。

  “如果你是一个被疏远的选民,你真的担心你家人的财务安全或你的个人安全,那么你最不希望的就是一个非常合格的人……如果你认为政府行动的总影响是负面的,那么你可能不希望有人非常合格,”克林顿说。

  “这就是我们现在面临的危险,因为如果你知道一些事情,这真的很重要。”

  当被问及特朗普获胜后可能会发生什么时,克林顿强调,特朗普赢得公平。

  “因此,我认为我们必须做的是观察权力的和平转移,坚持我们的信念,并在可能的时候共同努力,”克林顿说。

  “我不认为我们应该只是干扰他们,即使他们经常这样对我们。我认为这是一个错误,”他补充道。

  在2024年的竞选周期中,比尔·克林顿为副总统卡玛拉·哈里斯竞选,担任被派往农村地区并与工人阶级选民交谈。

  当被问及民主党如何才能赢回转向支持共和党的工人阶级选民时,克林顿说,他觉得部分挑战是“文化上的”,因为农村选民更加保守,正在处理他们不习惯的事情。

  “世界在前进,曾经对人们有意义的事情不再有意义了,”他说。“世界在前进,曾经对人们有意义的事情不再有意义了。应该有意义的事情不再有意义了。”

  “我们需要停止相互尖叫,相互倾听。我们需要认真讨论这些事情。我认为民主党人有时做的事情之一是放弃太多人,因为人口统计表明他们不会支持。

  “嗯,可能是,但你知道,如果你不处理有争议的事情,只是因为你不想听,那就像是对选民的侮辱。”

  自担任总统以来,克林顿一直致力于慈善和健康事业,他的回忆录《公民:白宫后的生活》于11月出版。

  “首先,这很有趣,其次,这很重要,”克林顿谈到他的慈善工作。“第三,我能做到。不管总统是巴拉克·奥巴马还是乔治·布什,我们只是做了人类需要的事情。”

  Bill Clinton indicates he hopes Biden doesn't issue preemptive pardons

  Former President Bill Clinton, during an appearance on ABC's "The View" on Wednesday, indicated he hopes PresidentJoe Bidenwill not preemptively pardon people who could be targeted by the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump, including Clinton's wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

  "If President Biden wanted to talk to me about that, I would talk to him about it. But I don't think I should be giving public advice on the pardon power. I think it's too -- it's a very personal thing, but it is -- I hope he won't do that," Clinton said.

  "Most of us get out of this world ahead of where we'd get if all we got was simple justice. And so it's normally a fool's errand. You spend a lot of time trying to get even," he added.

  President Biden and his senior aideshave been discussing possible preemptive pardonsfor people who might be targeted by the new Trump administration, according to a source close to the president. Expertshave told ABC Newshe has the power to do so under the Constitution.

  Clinton emphasized that he does not believe any potential charges from the incoming Trump administration brought against Hillary Clinton would be valid, arguing that she did not do anything wrong with her handling of emails during her time at the State Department -- a controversy which became a flashpoint late in the 2016 election cycle.

  Asked separately about his recent comments that a Republican could be more likely to be the first female president, Clinton said, "The impulse to say a woman probably shouldn't be president comes more from the right than from the left -- in the brain -- and it's an impulsive thing."

  He also surmised that voters are not always looking toward how much experience a politician had, because of how they're focused on day-to-day issues.

  "If you're an alienated voter and you're genuinely worried about your family's financial security or your personal security, then the last thing you want is somebody who's well qualified … if you think the total sum of impact of government action is negative, then you may not want somebody who's well qualified," Clinton said.

  "And that's the danger we're at now, because it actually does matter if you know things."

  Asked about what may happen after Trump's victory, Clinton emphasized that Trump won fairly.

  "So, I think what we have to do is to observe a peaceful transfer of power, stand up for what we believe, and work together when we can," Clinton said.

  "I do not think we should just be jamming them, even though they do that to us a lot. I think it's a mistake," he added.

  During the 2024 campaign cycle, Bill Clinton campaigned for Vice President Kamala Harris, serving as a key surrogate sent torural areasand to speak with working-class voters.

  Asked how Democrats can win back working-class voters who have been shifting to support Republicans, Clinton said that he feels part of the challenge is "cultural," as rural voters skewer more conservative and are dealing with things they are not used to.

  "The world moves on, and things that once made sense to people don't anymore," he said. "The world moves on, and things that once made sense to people don't anymore. Things that should make sense don't anymore."

  "We need to quit screaming at each other and listen to each other. We need to have a serious conversation about these things. And I think one of the things that Democrats sometimes do is give up on too many people, because the demographics say they're not going to be for it," Clinton said.

  "Well, that may be, but you know, if you don't deal with something that's controversial, just because you don't want to hear it, that's like an insult to voters."

  Clinton has devoted time to charitable and health causes since his presidency, and his memoir "Citizen: My Life After the White House" released in November.

  "First, it was fun, and secondly, it was important," Clinton said of his charitable work. "And thirdly, I could do it. And it didn't matter if the president was Barack Obama or George Bush, we just did things that human beings needed."

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