美国总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)周一与俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京(Vladimir Putin)进行了一次高风险的电话通话,他继续推动结束俄罗斯在上周伊斯坦布尔和平谈判后对乌克兰长达三年的入侵。
通话结束后,特朗普周一在椭圆形办公室告诉记者,他仍然相信俄罗斯和乌克兰将很快达成协议。
“我觉得要出事了。我告诉你,这涉及到非常非常大的自我,非常大的自我。但我认为会有事情发生,”他说。“如果我认为普京总统不想结束这件事,我甚至不会谈论它,因为我会退出。”
特朗普不愿进一步详细说明什么会导致他退缩。
“我想说我确实有一条底线,但我不想说是什么底线,因为我认为这会让谈判变得更加困难,”他说。
当被问及他是否要求普京在周一的通话中与他会面时。特朗普说“当然”他做了。
“我说,‘我们什么时候才能结束这一切,弗拉基米尔?’“特朗普说。”我说,‘我们什么时候才能结束这场流血,这场大屠杀?’这是一场大屠杀。我相信他想结束这一切。"
周一早些时候,特朗普在他的保守社交媒体平台上发表了一篇帖子,称通话持续了两个小时,他认为通话进行得“非常好”。
特朗普表示,俄罗斯和乌克兰将“立即”开始停火谈判,在与普京通话后,他与乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基以及几位北约领导人进行了交谈。他还表示,梵蒂冈“已经表示非常有兴趣主持谈判。”
特朗普周一与记者交谈时表示,他认为在梵蒂冈举行会谈将是“有帮助的”。
“有巨大的痛苦和愤怒,我认为这可能有助于缓解一些愤怒,”他说。
普京在索契对记者发表讲话时声称,他愿意与乌克兰就“未来可能的和平协议备忘录”进行合作,但没有详细说明这将是什么样的。
“当然,问题是俄罗斯和乌克兰方面表现出最大的和平愿望,并找到适合各方的妥协,”普京补充道。
特朗普曾承诺在2024年竞选期间上任后24小时内结束战争,但双方似乎仍相距甚远,俄罗斯只是加强了在乌克兰境内的打击。
美国广播公司新闻高级政治记者雷切尔·斯科特周一早些时候向白宫新闻秘书卡罗琳·莱维特施压,要求特朗普在与普京的对话中设定和谈的最后期限。莱维特说,她不会在任何具体的时间表上领先于特朗普。
“他的目标是看到停火,看到这场冲突结束,他对冲突双方都感到厌倦和沮丧,”她谈到总统时说。
莱维特还表示,她认为特朗普“肯定会对与普京会面持开放态度”,但“让我们看看今天的通话如何。”
恢复与普京的直接接触——两国总统之间最后一次公开的直接通话发生在2月份——是在特朗普对和平谈判取得进展的希望破灭之后,尽管泽连斯基邀请普京出席,但普京拒绝出席。
伊斯坦布尔会谈是自2022年春天以来莫斯科和基辅代表之间的首次已知会议,当时土耳其城市主办了最后一轮不成功的和平谈判,以结束俄罗斯正在进行的入侵。
一旦普京明确不会出席,特朗普就告诉记者和平努力,“在普京和我在一起之前,什么都不会发生,好吗?”
“显然他不会去,”特朗普补充道。“他要走了,但他以为我要走了。如果我不在,他就不会去。我不相信会发生什么,不管你喜不喜欢,直到我和他走到一起,但我们必须解决这个问题,因为太多的人正在死去。”
周一,副总统JD Vance表示,美国“非常愿意退出”谈判。
“我们意识到这里有点僵局,”万斯告诉记者,“我想总统会对普京总统说,‘看,你是认真的吗?你是认真的吗?因为来自美国一直以来,你看,俄罗斯和世界其他国家之间的关系解冻有很多经济利益,但是你不会得到这些利益,你一直在杀害很多无辜的人。"
目前还不清楚美国要求俄罗斯做出什么让步,如果有的话。特朗普和其他高级官员表示,为了结束冲突,乌克兰将不得不放弃北约成员资格,并可能承认俄罗斯占领的一些领土。
特朗普一再威胁要对俄罗斯实施进一步制裁,但到目前为止,这未能促使莫斯科的战争目标发生任何明显的变化——根据官员的公开声明,这些目标仍包括乌克兰割让四个地区——俄罗斯军队没有完全控制这些地区——外加克里米亚,以及永久阻止基辅加入北约。
普京周日表示,与乌克兰的任何和平协议都应该“消除引发这场危机的原因”,并“保证俄罗斯的安全”。
基辅及其欧洲支持者仍在推动为期30天的全面停火,他们表示,在此期间可以进行和平谈判。莫斯科迄今拒绝支持这一提议,暗示作为停火协议的一部分,所有西方对乌克兰的军事援助都必须停止。
特朗普周一表示,与美国的贸易可能是两国和平谈判的动力。
“当这场灾难性的‘大屠杀’结束时,俄罗斯希望与美国进行大规模贸易,我同意,”特朗普周一在社交媒体上写道。“俄罗斯有巨大的机会创造大量的就业机会和财富。它的潜力是无限的。同样,在重建国家的过程中,乌克兰可以成为贸易的巨大受益者。”
周一,当被一名记者问及为什么他还没有加大对俄罗斯的制裁时,特朗普表示,他认为“有机会完成一些事情,如果你这样做,你也可以让事情变得更糟。”
“但这可能会在某个时候发生,”他补充道。
伊斯坦布尔会谈结束后,美国、俄罗斯和乌克兰官员之间的接触仍在继续。周六,美国国务卿马尔科·卢比奥与俄罗斯外交部长谢尔盖·拉夫罗夫进行了交谈。
国务院发言人塔米·布鲁斯(Tammy Bruce)表示,卢比奥对伊斯坦布尔会议期间达成的囚犯交换协议表示欢迎,并强调特朗普呼吁立即停火。
乌克兰外交部长安德里·西比哈(Andrii Sybiha)周一在X上写道,伊斯坦布尔会议突显了莫斯科和基辅之间的“明显差异”。“乌克兰是向前看的,专注于全面和立即停火,以启动真正的和平进程。”
“相反,俄罗斯完全专注于过去,拒绝停火,而是不断谈论2022年伊斯坦布尔会议,试图提出与三年前相同的荒谬要求,”这位外交部长说。
“这是必须增加对俄罗斯压力的另一个原因,”西比哈补充道。"莫斯科现在必须明白阻碍和平进程的后果。"
与此同时,双方的远程打击仍在继续。周日晚上到周一早上,乌克兰空军表示,俄罗斯向该国发射了112架无人机,其中76架被击落或卡住。空军在发给电报的一份邮件中说,乌克兰五个地区都有损坏报告。
俄罗斯国防部周一上午表示,俄罗斯军队一夜之间击落了35架乌克兰无人机。
Trump says ceasefire negotiations between just Russia and Ukraine to start 'immediately'
President Donald Trump held a high-stakes phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday as he continued his push for an end to Moscow's 3-year-old invasion of Ukraine after last week's peace talks in Istanbul, Turkey.
Following the calls, Trump told reporters at the Oval Office on Monday that he remained confident that a deal between Russia and Ukraine would be reached soon.
"I think something's going to happen. It's a very, very big egos involved, I tell you, big egos involved. But I think something's going to happen," he said. "And if I thought that President Putin did not want to get this over with, I wouldn't even be talking about it because I’d just pull out."
Trump wouldn't elaborate further on what would cause him to back away.
"I would say I do have a certain line, but I don't want to say what the line is, because I think it makes the negotiation even more difficult than it is," he said.
When questioned if he had asked Putin to meet with him during the call on Monday. Trump said "of course" he did.
"I said, 'When are we going to end this, Vladimir?'" Trump said. "I said, 'When are we going to end this bloodshed, this, this bloodbath?' It's a bloodbath. And, I do believe he wants to end it."
In a post to his conservative social media platform earlier Monday, Trump said the call lasted two hours and that he believed it went "very well."
Trump said Russia and Ukraine will "immediately" start negotiations toward a ceasefire, and that he spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, as well as several NATO leaders, after the call with Putin. He also said the Vatican "has stated that it would be very interested in hosting the negotiations."
While talking to reporters on Monday, Trump said he thought having the talks at the Vatican would be "helpful."
"There's tremendous bitterness, anger, and I think maybe that could help some of that anger," he said.
Putin, speaking to journalists in Sochi, claimed that he is willing to work on a "memorandum on a possible future peace agreement" with Ukraine, but did not elaborate on what that would look like.
"The question is, of course, that the Russian and Ukrainian sides show their maximum desire for peace and find the compromises that would suit all parties," Putin added.
Trump had promised to end the war within 24 hours of taking office during the 2024 campaign, but both sides still appear far apart and Russia has only intensified strikes inside Ukraine.
ABC News Senior Political Correspondent Rachel Scott pressed White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt earlier Monday if Trump would set a deadline for peace talks during his conversation with Putin. Leavitt said she wouldn't get ahead of Trump on any specific timeline.
"His goal is to see a ceasefire and to see this conflict come to an end, and he's grown weary and frustrated with both sides of the conflict," she said of the president.
Leavitt also said she believed Trump "would certainly be open" to meeting with Putin but "let's see how this call goes today."
Renewed direct contact with Putin -- the last publicly known direct phone call between the two presidents took place in February -- comes after Trump's hopes for peace talks progress in Istanbul were scuppered, Putin having declined to attend despite Zelenskyy's invitation to do so.
The Istanbul talks were the first known meeting between representatives of Moscow and Kyiv since spring 2022, when the Turkish city hosted the final round of unsuccessful peace negotiations to end Russia's unfolding invasion.
Once it became clear Putin would not attend, Trump told reporters of the peace effort, "Nothing's going to happen until Putin and I get together, OK?"
"And obviously he wasn't going to go," Trump added. "He was going to go, but he thought I was going to go. He wasn't going if I wasn't there. And I don't believe anything's going to happen, whether you like it or not, until he and I get together, but we're going to have to get it solved, because too many people are dying."
On Monday, Vice President JD Vance said the U.S. is "more than open to walking away" from negotiations.
"We realize there's a bit of an impasse here," Vance told reporters, "and I think the president's going to say to President Putin, 'Look, are you serious? Are you real about this? Because the proposal from theUnited Stateshas always been, look, there are a lot of economic benefits to thawing relations between Russia and the rest of the world, but you're not going to get those benefits you keep on killing a lot of it is lot of innocent people.'"
It's not clear what concessions, if any, the United States has demanded of Russia. Trump and other top officials have said Ukraine will have to forgo NATO membership and likely concede some territory occupied by Russia in order to bring to the conflict to an end.
Trump's repeated threats of further sanctions on Russia have so far failed to precipitate any notable shift in Moscow's war goals -- which, according to public statements by officials, still include Ukraine's ceding of four regions -- which Russian forces do not fully control -- plus Crimea, as well as a permanent block on Kyiv's accession to NATO.
Putin said Sunday that any peace deal with Ukraine should "eliminate the causes that triggered this crisis" and "guarantee Russia's security."
Kyiv and its European backers are still pushing for a full 30-day ceasefire, during which time they say peace negotiations can take place. Moscow has thus far refused to support the proposal, suggesting that all Western military aid to Ukraine would have to stop as part of any ceasefire.
Trump on Monday suggested that trade with the U.S. could be a motivator for both countries in peace talks.
"Russia wants to do largescale TRADE with the United States when this catastrophic 'bloodbath" is over, and I agree," Trump wrote in his social media post on Monday. "There is a tremendous opportunity for Russia to create massive amounts of jobs and wealth. Its potential is UNLIMITED. Likewise, Ukraine can be a great beneficiary on Trade, in the process of rebuilding its Country."
Asked by a reporter Monday why he hasn't increased sanctions on Russia yet, Trump said he believes there's a "chance of getting something done, and if you do that, you can also make it much worse."
"But there could be a time when that's going to happen," he added.
Contacts between U.S., Russian and Ukrainian officials continued after the end of the talks in Istanbul. On Saturday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio spoke with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.
State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce said Rubio welcomed a prisoner exchange agreement reached during the Istanbul meeting and emphasized Trump's call for an immediate ceasefire.
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha on Monday wrote on X that the Istanbul meeting highlighted a "stark difference" between Moscow and Kyiv. "Ukraine is forward-looking, focused on the full and immediate ceasefire to kickstart the real peace process."
"To the contrary, Russia is completely focused on the past, rejecting the ceasefire and instead talking constantly about the 2022 Istanbul meetings, attempting to make the same absurd demands as three years ago," the foreign minister said.
"This is yet another reason why pressure on Russia must be increased," Sybiha added. "Moscow must now understand the consequences of impeding the peace process."
Meanwhile, long-range strikes by both sides continued. On Sunday night into Monday morning, Ukraine's air force said Russia launched 112 drones into the country, 76 of which were shot down or jammed. Damage was reported in five regions of Ukraine, the air force said in a post to Telegram.
Russia's Defense Ministry said on Monday morning that its forces had downed 35 Ukrainian drones overnight.