周二,加拿大总理马克·卡尼在椭圆形办公室直言不讳地告诉唐纳德·特朗普总统,加拿大是“非卖品”,此前特朗普重申了他应该成为第51个州的主张。
“正如你对房地产的了解,有些地方是不卖的。而且加拿大是非卖品,永远不会是非卖品,”卡尼告诉特朗普。“但机会在于合作伙伴关系以及我们可以共同打造的东西。我们过去已经这样做了。”
然而,特朗普仍然没有放弃这个想法。
“时间会证明一切。只是时间问题。但我说永远不要说永远,”特朗普在紧张的交流中说。“我有过很多很多不可行的事情,但它们最终都是可行的,而且只能以一种非常友好的方式实现。”
卡尼强调,在转向贸易谈判之前,加拿大在这个问题上的立场“不会改变”。
川普表示,卡尼在周二的会议上说什么都不会让他取消关税,其中包括对不符合美国-墨西哥-加拿大协定(美国管理认证协会)的加拿大商品征收25%的关税,以及对汽车、石油、钢铁和铝征收的其他关税。
“事情就是这样,”特朗普告诉记者。
卡尼刚刚赢得了取代贾斯廷·特鲁多的选举,这在很大程度上是因为他的反特朗普平台,他试图说服特朗普,加拿大作为美国最大的贸易伙伴之一,对美国至关重要。
“有更大的力量参与其中,”卡尼在贸易问题上表示。“这将需要一些讨论时间。这就是我们在这里进行这些讨论的原因。”
在特朗普表示“从我们的角度来看,我们与加拿大的业务往来不多——他们与我们的业务往来很多”后,卡尼反驳说,“就所有商品而言,我们是美国最大的客户。所以,我们是美国最大的客户。”
由于特朗普的关税战和收购威胁,美国和加拿大之间的历史友好关系在特朗普治下变得紧张。
与他的前任相比,卡尼参加周二会议的一个优势是他缺乏与特朗普的历史。特鲁多在与总统关系破裂的情况下离职,特朗普多次将总统称为“州长”而不是总理。两位领导人未能达成关税协议。
在特朗普推动加拿大成为第51个州之前,两人在椭圆形办公室的会面开始时语气相当亲切。
特朗普祝贺卡尼获胜,称“加拿大选择了一个非常有才华的人,一个非常好的人。”
“这非常友好,”特朗普谈到他们的坐下来。特朗普补充说:“这不会像——我们又和别人发生了一点小冲突,”他指的是今年早些时候他在椭圆形办公室与乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基发生的口角。
尽管如此,特朗普对不符合(美国管理认证协会)的加拿大商品征收的25%的关税仍然有效,对加拿大石油进口征收的关税为10%,对所有汽车、汽车零部件、钢铁和铝征收的关税为25%。
加拿大的报复行动包括对从美国进口的不符合美国管理认证协会标准的汽车征收25%的关税。今年3月,加拿大对美国橙汁、威士忌、花生酱、咖啡、电器、鞋类、化妆品、摩托车和某些纸浆和纸制品征收了价值210亿美元的报复性关税。
如果特朗普继续威胁对美国境外制作的电影征收100%的关税,加拿大也会损失很多。
川普继续称赞美国管理认证协会,并表示美国和加拿大将在明年举行会谈,重新谈判或终止该协议。
卡尼说,协议中有些东西他们“必须改变”。
“这是更广泛谈判的基础。有些事情必须改变。你们征收这些关税的部分方式利用了美国管理认证协会现有的优势。所以它必须改变。还有其他因素,这是我们将要讨论的一部分,”卡尼说。
Carney says Canada 'not for sale' after Trump pushes 51st state in Oval Office meeting
Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney on Tuesday bluntly told President Donald Trump in the Oval Office that Canada is "not for sale" after Trump repeated his assertion it should become the 51st state.
"As you know from real estate, there are some places that are not for sale. And Canada is not for sale, it will never be for sale," Carney told Trump. "But the opportunity is in the partnership and what we can build together. And we have done that in the past."
Trump, though, still didn't let go of the idea.
"Time will tell. It's only time. But I say never say never," Trump said in the tense exchange. "I've had many, many things that were not doable and they ended up being doable and only doable in a very friendly way."
Carney emphasized Canada's position "is not going to change" on the matter, before pivoting to trade talk.
Trump said there was nothing Carney could say during Tuesday's meeting that would get him to lift the tariffs, which include a 25% levy on Canadian goods that are not compliant with the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) and other levies on cars, oil, steel and aluminum.
"That's just the way it is," Trump told reporters.
Carney, who just won an election to replace Justin Trudeau in no small part because of his anti-Trump platform, tried to persuade Trump that Canada is crucial to the U.S. as one of its biggest trading partners.
"There are much bigger forces involved," Carney said on trade. "And this will take some time in some discussions. And that's why we're here to have those discussions."
After Trump said "we don't do much business with Canada from our standpoint -- they do a lot of business with us," Carney pushed back, saying, "we are the largest client of the United States in in the totality of all the goods. So, we are the largest client of the United States."
The historically friendly relationship between the U.S. and Canada has become strained under Trump due to his tariff war and takeover threat.
One advantage for Carney compared to his predecessor going into Tuesday's meeting was his lack of history with Trump. Trudeau left his post with a bruised relationship with the president, who Trump repeatedly trolled as "governor" rather than prime minister. The two leaders were unable to work out a tariff deal.
Before the back-and-forth over Trump's push to make Canada the 51st state, the two men struck a fairly cordial tone at the start of their Oval Office encounter.
Trump congratulated Carney for his win, saying "Canada chose a very talented person, a very good person."
"This is very friendly," Trump said of their sit-down. "This is not going to be like -- we had another little blowup with somebody else," Trump added, referencing his Oval Office spat with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy earlier this year.
Still, a 25% tariff imposed by Trump remains in place for Canadian goods that are not compliant with the (USMCA) as well as a 10% tariff on Canadian oil imports and 25% tariff on all cars, auto parts, steel and aluminum.
Canada's retaliatory action includes a 25% tariff on vehicles imported from the U.S. that are not compliant with USMCA. In March, Canada imposed $21 billion worth of retaliatory tariffs were applied on items like American orange juice, whiskey, peanut butter, coffee, appliances, footwear, cosmetics, motorcycles and certain pulp and paper products.
Canada also has a lot to lose if Trump follows through with threat to impose 100% tariffs on films produced outside the U.S.
Trump continued to praise USMCA and said the U.S and Canada would have talks coming up over the next year to renegotiate or terminate the deal.
Carney said there were things they'd "have to change" in the agreement.
“It is a basis for a broader negotiation. Some things about it are going to have to change. And part of the way you've conducted these tariffs has taken advantage of existing aspects of USMCA. So it's going to have to change. There's other elements that have come, and that's part of what we're going to discuss,” Carney said.